What's the alternative? Surely this will just lead to more people buying guns for protection which will just compound the problem. Or should they just keep going like this?
Reported: 10 Killed in US Batman Premiere
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What's the alternative? Surely this will just lead to more people buying guns for protection which will just compound the problem. Or should they just keep going like this?
Nothing you could ever do in life would level the playing field, you would be completely incompitant with or without a gun, like most people, stop fantasising.
Of course Comedians have made jokes about events such as 9/11, however they were hardly doing it when it happened. Secondly, Comedians make a living from telling jokes and some of them use use such things to deliberately be controversial, Frankie Boyle springs to mind.
The Dictator is a film that was released 11 years after 9/11 even took place and again is something that was hardly devoid of controversy.
Saying "LOL, stupid dead Americans" is just a pure insult, thats not even a joke. People making jokes about the situation, especially so soon are just after attention and think they are clever.
I'm wasting my time trying to demonstrate this to somebody who has made such a joke in this very thread, and doesn't even have the basic school Biology education to know that Humans have arteries in their legs.
i think he is a bit of a joker.
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Baddum Tish!
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Ahh so being 'tasteless' is fine if you're doing it for profit. Funny, I would have thought that would have made it worse.
So the families of the dead are over it now I suppose? I really don't see how the timing of the joke is relevant.
You've missed the point, people are not making jokes about people dying. THAT would be insensitive (and not funny), they are making jokes about the idea of someone bringing and firing a gun to a cinema. If the joke works with or without any deaths then it's not joking about people dying is it?
Do you know the difference between an artery and a major artery?
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Are you actually suggesting that everyone should be armed? Does that include kids? What's the cut-off age, if any? Or should everyone just be trusted with these incredibily effective killing tools to only use them in self defence?
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You are obviously unaware of the almost exclusively American problem of "death by cop".
I'm not suggesting one.
Yes, for a reasonable person that is a reasonable thought process. However I would suggest that a reasonable person wouldn't go and shoot up a cinema in the first place...
That's only 6317 people though, curse Cameron's military cuts *shakefist*
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Correct, there's also this weird assumption that in an unexpected and frantic situation like that you as a normal citizen would suddenly turn into Magnum PI and be all calm and collected as you did a forward roll from your chair whilst pulling out your Glock and finally shooting the 'bad guy' to a rapturous applause from everyone else.
Even when armed, the vast majority of people's first reaction would be to **** themselves and run away. It takes a lot for a reasonable man to murder a fellow human being even if it's necessary for the greater good.
You're tripping over yourself implying things there.
You are obviously unaware of the almost exclusively American problem of "death by cop".
Doesn't this tend to be desperate people that are criminals using illegal guns anyway? Not sure what this has to do with law abiding people carrying guns.
Yes, for a reasonable person that is a reasonable thought process. However I would suggest that a reasonable person wouldn't go and shoot up a cinema in the first place...
Even a slightly mad person would be put off by the fact that the chance of achieving their goal is lower if they are taking on a room full of armed people. The guy who did it probably imagined a room full of helpless lambs he could gun down without any comeback, and that is exactly what happened by the sound of it.
I'm not suggesting that every man woman and child be issued an M-16. But law abiding people being allowed to carry registered firearms is surely better than everyone being helpless. With proper legislation, compulsory training and strict gun tracking it could and does work in parts of the US. Over here would likely be a different story as guns are cracked down so much already.
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Are you that devoid of comman sense or are you arguing for the sake of arguing ?
All the braindead Americans on the iRacing forum are having a discussion about "How much safer we all would feel if everyone was armed to the teeth", basically. I can't believe it.
Put it this way, everyone will, at one time, have had a few words with someone else over something completely trivial, in a pub or something. Instead of throwing a punch, he pulls out a gun and blows your head off. How is that better?
Put it this way, everyone will, at one time, have had a few words with someone else over something completely trivial, in a pub or something. Instead of throwing a punch, he pulls out a gun and blows your head off. How is that better?
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Obviously I don't have your psychology/physchiatry training but I would think you need to be a bit more than "slightly mad" to go shoot up a cinema. That does seem to be moving into "mad as a box of frogs" territory...
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There is no need for criminals in America to have illegal guns as you can buy them so easily from shops.
The point I was trying to make is the kind of person that goes on a shooting spree isn't mentally stable anyway so you can't then apply a rational thought process to them.
They don't tend to think about their own lives or safety before carrying out something like this.
The point about death by cop shows this, they go out trying to kill as many as they can because they want to die and try and take as many people with them as possible.