8150

jennidc · 3 Aug 2012 at 19:55

With the deal today is it worth the £123 (after £20 cash back) to upgrade my 1055T Phenom 2 x6 to an 8150 Bulldozer. Then use the money saved to get a 2nd 6970 2nd hand.

(I already have a 990fx Sabertooth board)

or

Spend £250 on 2500k z77 / IB i5 3570k + z77 board.

Discuss

Smoogels · 3 Aug 2012 at 19:57

Depends.

Do you play games often? Do you do video editing etc?

More details of primary usage would help^^

jennidc · 3 Aug 2012 at 20:00

I mainly play games like Battlefield 3 / Skyrim / etc

Also like messing with emulation of older systems

Orcvader · 3 Aug 2012 at 20:16

Stick with the X6, the FX has worse IPC than the Phenom IIs.

Then wait for Haswell, but if you really can't wait, then the 3570K.

passey89 · 3 Aug 2012 at 20:38

Don't bother u won't get any performance gains either go Intel or wait for piledriver it may be worth it

jennidc · 3 Aug 2012 at 20:39

When is Haswell due to drop and is it rumoured to be much better than 2500k / 3570k?

I suppose another option is to get a 2nd 6950/70 anyway and wait for steamroller or Haswell

passey89 · 3 Aug 2012 at 21:08

Ud get better performance but a cpu bottleneck doing that

Dicehunter · 3 Aug 2012 at 21:53

I have the 8150 @ 4.60 jiggerherz ^^ only reason i have it though is because i got it for free, good cpu and gets way too much bad press imho.

Alkalinepro5 · 3 Aug 2012 at 21:59

jennidc said:
When is Haswell due to drop and is it rumoured to be much better than 2500k / 3570k?

I suppose another option is to get a 2nd 6950/70 anyway and wait for steamroller or Haswell

Q2 2013 according to the roadmap, and it will be exactly the same as 2500k/3570k. Possibly a 0.05% increase in gaming performance (just like Ivy).

jennidc · 4 Aug 2012 at 02:12

To throw even more choices in the mix I have just noticed an I7 X79 with mobi for £380 -2nd hand although that might be overkill for my needs

Martini1991 · 4 Aug 2012 at 02:24

Alkalinepro5 said:
Q2 2013 according to the roadmap, and it will be exactly the same as 2500k/3570k. Possibly a 0.05% increase in gaming performance (just like Ivy).

Ivy was mainly a die shrink, Haswell should be pretty interesting.
And Ivy's more like 5% around better than SB.
But you're not sensible when it comes to Intel, so why am I bothering.

jennidc said:
To throw even more choices in the mix I have just noticed an I7 X79 with mobi for £380 -2nd hand although that might be overkill for my needs

I'd get it.

Your CPU would bottleneck a 6970 Crossfire, as would an FX8150.

DF1986 said:
I have the 8150 @ 4.60 jiggerherz ^^ only reason i have it though is because i got it for free, good cpu and gets way too much bad press imho.

It doesn't get way too much bad press, it's just not very good for gaming to compared to what's available (And been available since 2008)

jennidc · 4 Aug 2012 at 10:04

Having weighed up the pro's and con's I think I will go for a 2500k with a z77.

The Bulldozer just isn't a big enough step up even though a cheaper upgrade option.

The lower power requirements would allow me to add a second 6950/70 without upgrading my 600w psu. My Ram and cooler are all compatible (for x79 would need a new psu + cooler)

Unfortuately the 2500k seems to be higher in price more recently - although motherboards seem to be cheaper. So might wait for a deal.

Alkalinepro5 · 4 Aug 2012 at 11:41

Martini1991 said:
Ivy was mainly a die shrink, Haswell should be pretty interesting.
And Ivy's more like 5% around better than SB.
But you're not sensible when it comes to Intel, so why am I bothering.

Sorry, should I be a die hard BS spewing fanboy like you instead?

Martini1991 · 4 Aug 2012 at 11:43

Alkalinepro5 said:
Sorry, should I be a die hard BS spewing fanboy like you instead?

Except I'm not.
I'm neither a fanboy, nor do I spew BS.

Ollie1132 · 4 Aug 2012 at 12:09

jennidc said:
Having weighed up the pro's and con's I think I will go for a 2500k with a z77.

The Bulldozer just isn't a big enough step up even though a cheaper upgrade option.

The lower power requirements would allow me to add a second 6950/70 without upgrading my 600w psu. My Ram and cooler are all compatible (for x79 would need a new psu + cooler)

Unfortuately the 2500k seems to be higher in price more recently - although motherboards seem to be cheaper. So might wait for a deal.

Why get a 2500k when you can get a 3570k? If you expect a 4.6ghz+ overclock sorry to disappoint but the newer sb chips struggle to get that high from what I understand.

Ollie1132 · 4 Aug 2012 at 12:12

Alkalinepro5 said:
Martini1991 said:

Ivy was mainly a die shrink, Haswell should be pretty interesting.
And Ivy's more like 5% around better than SB.
But you're not sensible when it comes to Intel, so why am I bothering.

Sorry, should I be a die hard BS spewing fanboy like you instead?

Click to expand...

He doesn't BS. The facts are there. Haswell will be an all new architecture with a pretty good improvement to IPC as well as the igpu....

Martini1991 · 4 Aug 2012 at 12:15

That's some messed up quoting

Ollie1132 · 4 Aug 2012 at 12:16

Yeah Im not sure what happened there ahah.

Martini1991 · 4 Aug 2012 at 12:41

It's because he messed it up.
Note his post, when I replied I just altered the quote tags

Orcvader · 4 Aug 2012 at 12:42

jennidc said:
Having weighed up the pro's and con's I think I will go for a 2500k with a z77.

The 3570K is only £5 more, go for that. Slightly better IPC and PCI-E 3.0.