Did a fresh install for the 7970 mate. Then went back to the 570 when I had driver issues on the 7970.
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Oh no. Gigabyte 7970 lockups in wow. I'll be returning this for a 680 methinks.
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Wow.
Whoever said that needs retraining or firing.
So basically, the issue is that WoW is crap and loads of people are having issues with it. Funny how people are so quick to scream "DRIVERS" regardless.
It's really sad to see that some people (even customer service representatives at OCUK) are still perpetuating the myth that AMD drivers are bad compared to nVidia.
It seems to be one of those things, if something is said enough times, people will start to believe it.
Since nVidia has a record of having shills post crap on forums too, it's not hard to wonder where it keeps coming from really.
Wow.
Whoever said that needs retraining or firing.
So basically, the issue is that WoW is crap and loads of people are having issues with it. Funny how people are so quick to scream "DRIVERS" regardless.
It's really sad to see that some people (even customer service representatives at OCUK) are still perpetuating the myth that AMD drivers are bad compared to nVidia.
It seems to be one of those things, if something is said enough times, people will start to believe it.
Since nVidia has a record of having shills post crap on forums too, it's not hard to wonder where it keeps coming from really.
No smoke without a fire.
I think the smoke comes from the fact AMD's mutli-GPU support is quite frankly poor. You only have to see some of the users on this forum to get an idea of that.
It seems to start off terrible, then just become poor, then OK and then finally a few months down the line (i.e. now) start to show some signs of real improvement.
What the problem is, is that this multi-GPU "stigma" as I shall call it translates itself one way or another into norms about driver discussions.
I don't think many people really believe that AMD's single GPU support is worse than nVidia's. Both sides will have the occasional issue but mainly it's OK. It's in the multi-GPU side of things where I think there are genuine differences in quality between the two. I'm not saying nVidia are perfect by any means but I just feel (and many others will agree) that if you're jumping into multi-GPU early on in a new cards life, then SLI is more robust than Crossfire.
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Have you found out what is wrong with your 680?
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Wow.
Whoever said that needs retraining or firing.
So basically, the issue is that WoW is crap and loads of people are having issues with it. Funny how people are so quick to scream "DRIVERS" regardless.
It's really sad to see that some people (even customer service representatives at OCUK) are still perpetuating the myth that AMD drivers are bad compared to nVidia.
It seems to be one of those things, if something is said enough times, people will start to believe it.
Since nVidia has a record of having shills post crap on forums too, it's not hard to wonder where it keeps coming from really.
Im not suprised that it was said, after all it convinced him to buy a more expensive card, making them more money.
No smoke without a fire.
I think the smoke comes from the fact AMD's mutli-GPU support is quite frankly poor. You only have to see some of the users on this forum to get an idea of that.
It seems to start off terrible, then just become poor, then OK and then finally a few months down the line (i.e. now) start to show some signs of real improvement.
What the problem is, is that this multi-GPU "stigma" as I shall call it translates itself one way or another into norms about driver discussions.
I don't think many people really believe that AMD's single GPU support is worse than nVidia's. Both sides will have the occasional issue but mainly it's OK. It's in the multi-GPU side of things where I think there are genuine differences in quality between the two. I'm not saying nVidia are perfect by any means but I just feel (and many others will agree) that if you're jumping into multi-GPU early on in a new cards life, then SLI is more robust than Crossfire.
Maybe 3+ GPUs, but based on personal experience of dual GPUs, and the countless reviews I've read, I couldn't agree that two GPU support isn't very good. I've used a few multi GPU setups myself, and genuinely had no issues with them.
From experience, people will have issues regardless really. Plenty of people have issues with SLI, but I wouldn't claim that to be a healthy example to use as a statistic.
However, this "AMD/ATi drivers suck" thing has been going on since well before multi-GPU set ups. I have had a ridiculous amount of graphics cards from AMD and nVidia (though lately I tend to avoid nVidia since I don't agree with how they conduct themselves, it's got absolutely nothing to do with AMD though, they're just the only other option for high end graphics) and I struggle to think of any instance where I've had graphics software problems that weren't a result of PEBKAC (on my behalf of course) with either AMD/ATi or nVidia.
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You either had a duff card or you installed something wrong, there's been nothing wrong with the drivers in single 7970 installations.
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Sorry but I have to disagree, I've had 2 7970s now (both different brands) and both had enough problems over and above anything I've seen on my nvidia cards.
I really wanted to like and keep the 7970 but just couldn't for the games I play, so going back to nvidia.
Oh, and I've had them on 2 different systems, fresh windows install each time and tried different drivers
Guys everything is perfect now. I'm running on the 680 with no problems at all. Used this program called driver sweeper and took out all the AMD traces. Fresh install and all up and running perfect. Got the card running oc'ed I'm very impressed with the performance and all in all feel it's worth the extra cash. Not to mention the thing runs like 15c lower than my AMD and it's at 1200mhz speed! 125 more than my 7970.
The 69's had fantastic CrossFire driver support from launch Rusty, locky has been very vocal(rightly so) about TriFire being rubbish, don't mistake TriFire performance with CrossFire performance:
'Now make no mistake, once you pass a single GPU configuration there's bound to be some sort of issue at one frame in time. A game that is not properly multi-GPU supported or some weird anomalies. This happens period, it's the choice you make with multi-GPU setups. Stretching it even further with 3 or 4 GPUs and things typically get way more complicated than fun. keep that in mind, always.'
and
'the overall experience was pretty darn good. In fact ever since the 6800 releases a while ago we feel that AMD is making tremendous steps with their multi-GPU support'
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex-review/17
If there was a few TriSli users in here, I think you would see some negativity too.
You have only had your Sli setup a few weeks now, I imagine it wasn't all plain sailing at launch for some.
I would have stuck with the 7970 as its far superior, Bullet and future proof than the one trick pony (GTX680/670), I just hope the gtx680 works as advertised for you as many people are having far worse problems (Stutter fest & Driver problems) with the nvidia 6 series also. People are "also" returning their gtx 680 and gtx670 for the HD7970 Gigahertz Edition (Works both ways), This happens on both sides but am seeing more switch to AMD from nvidia as nvidia have/had a bigger market (/WTB market share results).
Personally, I would prefer a card that can do everything (Games & a Compute work horse) rather than one specific thing (Games & benchmarks).
"HD7970 shows an impressive 526% DP FP64 performance when compared with GTX680`s meager 190 Giga flops performance" SoftPedia (Quadro vs FirePro).
The funny thing is, the HD7970 / HD7970GE is equal/stronger in games vs the 680/70, whereas the 680 vs the 7970 in anything else outside of games, it mostly gets destroyed or pawned at best.
Edit: Sorry, Forgot to add the smiley
Personally, I would prefer a card that can do everything (Games & a Compute work horse) rather than one specific thing (Games & benchmarks).
"HD7970 shows an impressive 526% DP FP64 performance when compared with GTX680`s meager 190 Giga flops performance" SoftPedia (Quadro vs FirePro).
The funny thing is, the HD7970 / HD7970GE is equal/stronger in games vs the 680/70, whereas the 680 vs the 7970 in anything else outside of games, it mostly gets destroyed or pawned at best.
Edit: Sorry, Forgot to add the smiley
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That's what I was getting at really. These "driver issues" some people like to talk about, are strictly the domain of forums, said by people with questionable motives. No professional website mentions how awful AMD's drivers are during reviews, because it's simply not true.
It's just lame that these people can't compare performance to performance, but instead have to descend into things like that. Additionally, I don't believe most people even know what the "driver" is, and just assume that any software related to the graphics card is the "driver".
I would have stuck with the 7970 as its far superior, Bullet and future proof than the one trick pony (GTX680/670), I just hope the gtx680 works as advertised for you as many people are having far worse problems (Stutter fest & Driver problems) with the nvidia 6 series also. People are "also" returning their gtx 680 and gtx670 for the HD7970 Gigahertz Edition (Works both ways), This happens on both sides but am seeing more switch to AMD from nvidia as nvidia have/had a bigger market (/WTB market share results).
Personally, I would prefer a card that can do everything (Games & a Compute work horse) rather than one specific thing (Games & benchmarks).
"HD7970 shows an impressive 526% DP FP64 performance when compared with GTX680`s meager 190 Giga flops performance" SoftPedia (Quadro vs FirePro).
The funny thing is, the HD7970 / HD7970GE is equal/stronger in games vs the 680/70, whereas the 680 vs the 7970 in anything else outside of games, it mostly gets destroyed or pawned at best.
Edit: Sorry, Forgot to add the smiley
Wow just wow and we was all getting along so nicely
Wow just wow and we was all getting along so nicely
lol, yeah, i get over excited sometimes. my last post below before i hit bed lol (not directed at you or anyone else)
I think both sides have their fair share of problems, but Its weired how, when we get close to an nvidia release (gtx660) suddenly we have this massive flux of complaints regarding AMD drivers/GPU`s only etc, etc, on every site, when nvidia are in no better position themselves (Am counting 3 to 5 threads already here vs non against nvidia). pls don`t say "Thats bcoz nvidia have no problems" as i could list many-many sites, including nvidia forums (jam-packed with complaints and frustrated people who have had enough of nvidia drivers).
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Really, what like the 'Professional' websites that are funded by not only companies like AMD but by the main vendors themselves (Gigabyte, EVGA etc etc..) and the forums where most are 'real' end users that aren't sponsored by anyone
You seem like an intelligent chap, but you seem to be posting a lot of AMD bias!
Good to hear, it's always been like this. Neither vendor has managed to make a uninstaller that clears their driver from Windows perfectly. Both have made some headway with the upgrade installations thanks to Microsoft, but it could be better.
Now for the real advice: Stop playing WoW and play a decent game.
Really, what like the 'Professional' websites that are funded by not only companies like AMD but by the main vendors themselves (Gigabyte, EVGA etc etc..) and the forums where most are 'real' end users that aren't sponsored by anyone
You seem like an intelligent chap, but you seem to be posting a lot of AMD bias!
This is what confuses me, how am I posting things that are biased towards AMD? If I'm point out that these pretend driver issues don't exist, how is that being biased? If I criticise nVidia, does that automatically qualify for being biased towards AMD?