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The quotes from Agger make it seem like he's very comfortable with the current situation so we don't need to worry about his feelings.
There's countless possible scenarios as to what's going on right now:
1. Are we trying to force his hard regarding a new contract (he/his agent has form for being difficult to negotiate with).
2. Are we actively trying to sell him because we need to balance the books.
3. Are we trying to sell him because Rodgers doesn't want him
4. Or is it simply as has been said - we'll only consider a huge offer if Rodgers/the club feel that the money can be used to improve the side as a whole?
My personaly feeling is that a mixture of scenarios 4 and 1 is the most likely explanation.
As I mentioned earlier regarding clubs - there's a middle ground for players feelings too. It's very possible that Agger's not trying to create a move for himself but that doesn't mean that if the chance comes up, he'd be totally against joining City on 3x as much as what he currently earns, playing in the CL again and all that without having to move house.
Maybe I'm too cynical but I'm a firm believer that in 99% of all transfers, clubs contact the player first to find out if he's at the very least open to joining them before wasting their time bidding.
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Kevin Mirallas to Arsenal could mean RVP will move on....
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I know, he's only one of the best strikers on the planet right now.
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and the signing of 3 forwards already this window wasn't already a sign for RVP and possibly Walcott to move on?
They still have Chamakh and Bendtner to off load this window as well.
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Well he was right up until about the time the euros started.
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22m 
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Thing is by doing thisit opens up the question why buy a striker now? Welbeck and chico are a year older/better/more experienced.
So if you were going to buy one wouldn't you do it when they were a year younger and less experienced. Fergie might as well admit he didnt buy right last summer and knowingly started with too weak a forward line up. Now we are stronger and only now does he try to reinforce. Facepalm.
So if you were going to buy one wouldn't you do it when they were a year younger and less experienced. Fergie might as well admit he didnt buy right last summer and knowingly started with too weak a forward line up. Now we are stronger and only now does he try to reinforce. Facepalm.
As usual utter rubbish
Pains me to agree with you, but he doesn't half come out with some tripe at times.
At the moment, Welbeck and Hernandez aren't really comparable to van Persie. Hernandez is a poacher in every sense of the word, he offers very little outside of scoring. Even as a pure goalscorer, he's always getting caught offside and his finishing has wavered over the past year or so.
Welbeck seems far more promising, he has a lot of ability but lacks composure, he's often on the ball and messes things up and his finishing needs a lot of work still. He's only 21, so having RvP in the side wouldn't really stall his development as he'd still get a fair bit of playing time as a sub for Rooney/RvP, or whenever one of them needs a rest.
On top of that, RvP would ease the burden on Rooney. We're pretty much entirely reliant on him when it comes to scoring. He and RvP up front could possibly form one of, if not the, best strike partnerships in the world.
Just look at Man City, they can have Aguero and Tevez up front if they want to, Tevez might be a tool, but he's a quality player and they link up well. We need to set the bar a bit higher. It's very easy to see why Fergie is going to try and push this through.
£22m~ (and what I imagine will be fairly high wages) isn't really bad at all. Obviously injuries are a concern but he's been fine recently and I'm sure we'll take steps to ensure he stays as fit as possible.
Welbeck seems far more promising, he has a lot of ability but lacks composure, he's often on the ball and messes things up and his finishing needs a lot of work still. He's only 21, so having RvP in the side wouldn't really stall his development as he'd still get a fair bit of playing time as a sub for Rooney/RvP, or whenever one of them needs a rest.
On top of that, RvP would ease the burden on Rooney. We're pretty much entirely reliant on him when it comes to scoring. He and RvP up front could possibly form one of, if not the, best strike partnerships in the world.
Just look at Man City, they can have Aguero and Tevez up front if they want to, Tevez might be a tool, but he's a quality player and they link up well. We need to set the bar a bit higher. It's very easy to see why Fergie is going to try and push this through.
£22m~ (and what I imagine will be fairly high wages) isn't really bad at all. Obviously injuries are a concern but he's been fine recently and I'm sure we'll take steps to ensure he stays as fit as possible.
Have to say RVP to Man Utd for the figures being thrown around doesn't strike me as making a huge amount of sense financially - Utd certainly weren't short of goals last season and they only lost the title effectively because City spanked them 1-6 at Old Trafford.
Also as many have said it doesn't really seem an investment for the future but then I imagine the board/Fergie is thinking that it's more important right now to get back to winning trophies - although they'd be far better off *drumroll* getting a better midfield IMHO
Also as many have said it doesn't really seem an investment for the future but then I imagine the board/Fergie is thinking that it's more important right now to get back to winning trophies - although they'd be far better off *drumroll* getting a better midfield IMHO
You only need to look at what the situation was this time last summer to find flaws in Nickg's 'opinion'.....
For starters Hernandez had just come off a 20 goal debut season where he'd had built up a pretty good partnership with Rooney.
Secondly Berbatov had also just come off a 20 goal season and actually finished joint highest PL goal scorer.
Thirdly you had Welbeck coming back from what can only be considered a successful loan spell with Sunderland.
And lastly you had Rooney.
Now look at the situation this summer;
Hernandez has all of a sudden started to look fairly limited, is it just a rough patch of form? Who knows? Did he overachieve in his first season? Who knows?
Berbatov now wants out and will probably go for next to nothing if we can bring another striker in.
Welbeck has just had a very good first season in the first team so one would imagine if no other signings he'll be first choice.
Rooney is still Rooney.
As it currently stands then we'll down to 2 'reliable' strikers, one of which is still just a boy and still fairly raw in his development.
As far as I'm concerned bringing in another striker this summer will not only ease the goal scoring burden on Rooney but also add a bit of experience to the front line with Berbatov surely on his way
For starters Hernandez had just come off a 20 goal debut season where he'd had built up a pretty good partnership with Rooney.
Secondly Berbatov had also just come off a 20 goal season and actually finished joint highest PL goal scorer.
Thirdly you had Welbeck coming back from what can only be considered a successful loan spell with Sunderland.
And lastly you had Rooney.
Now look at the situation this summer;
Hernandez has all of a sudden started to look fairly limited, is it just a rough patch of form? Who knows? Did he overachieve in his first season? Who knows?
Berbatov now wants out and will probably go for next to nothing if we can bring another striker in.
Welbeck has just had a very good first season in the first team so one would imagine if no other signings he'll be first choice.
Rooney is still Rooney.
As it currently stands then we'll down to 2 'reliable' strikers, one of which is still just a boy and still fairly raw in his development.
As far as I'm concerned bringing in another striker this summer will not only ease the goal scoring burden on Rooney but also add a bit of experience to the front line with Berbatov surely on his way
Have to say RVP to Man Utd for the figures being thrown around doesn't strike me as making a huge amount of sense financially - Utd certainly weren't short of goals last season and they only lost the title effectively because City spanked them 1-6 at Old Trafford.
Also as many have said it doesn't really seem an investment for the future but then I imagine the board/Fergie is thinking that it's more important right now to get back to winning trophies - although they'd be far better off *drumroll* getting a better midfield IMHO
While it would be great to buy a quality central midfielder, our options, barring any injuries will be:
Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Scholes, Giggs
o), Powell, and Kagawa (Jones maybe, but hopefully not )Obviously Powell will be too much of a risk in bigger games, but Kagawa would be okay through the middle with Carrick, as Carrick doesn't bomb forward and Kagawa is pretty much our only player happy to run with the ball through the middle of the pitch, and he's pretty good at it too.
At the start of last season Cleverley and Anderson as a CM pair looked rather promising, then they both got injured. Cleverley is considered to be a creative player but he's hard working and can defend too so he's not totally limited.
I don't know how Fletcher is doing, he's been doing some training which is promising but he certainly won't be back for a while yet.
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