AMD Catalyst 12.8 (8.982.0 July 27) AMD Official WHQL

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 20:39

Rusty0611 said:
You can call it whatever you like to suit: fanboy, bandwagon etc. the driver caused an issue he has resolved it by rolling back. Discussion over. Stop trying to generate friction from some lingering grievance you hold. It's a little odd.

Which is the same logic as the newer Prime95's failing where the old ones would not when it came to over clocking, rollback to the older versions because they pass my overclocks.
Its not establishing where the issue really is, its avoiding it.

Its up to he OP what he wants to do, im just offering him up other possibilities which you are not because just blame the AMD driver first and foremost is your favourite.

Rusty0611 · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:08

That's because as you admit it look likely to be the problem. As I said it's OK he's found a resolution why are you still rattling on?

chipachap · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:13

gareth170 said:
are theres working with crossfire better? i.e 99% usage on each gpu or is it still 50-65% in gaming?

Between 75-99% in Bf3 for me. Never goes below 68-70% really.

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:24

Rusty0611 said:
That's because as you admit it look likely to be the problem. As I said it's OK he's found a resolution why are you still rattling on?

Because i offered him up other possibilities and you came in as if i should not have, he is not the one disagreeing with me for doing so.

Its standard practise to take overclocks out of the equation when having stability issues, i offered it, its that simple and then you jumped in on the, its just AMD fault as usual.

Everything pointed to AMD here as well, but it was something that past all the tests and if anything, it could have been the PSU which is more common after the card is established not to be faulty.
Thank god it was not something you had to sort out with your logic.

Memory & motherboard compatibility issues that can lead to CTD, Blue screen, driver has stopped responding from 3 to 8 times a day while gaming

OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 (OCZ3G1333LV4GK) (1333MHz)
Asus M4A79XTD Evo.
Passed memtest 12 hours, Passed Prime-95 8hours passed, Furmark passed, 3Dmark06 passed.
Changed the gfx card.
Drivers 10.4/ 10.5 hotfix/10.6.

Fired up WOW which is the only game the customer plays at the moment & instant multiple driver has stopped responding or sometimes hours or more would pass.

Put in some G.Skill RipJaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C8 & not had a single issue.

Rusty0611 · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:30

Are you still going on?! Posting things which have no relevance I see again.

User has issue after new driver. User doesn't have issue with old driver. End of discussion.

You're starting to post at me personally now as I've obviously caused you some grief somewhere. Let it go.

Stop over complicating what clearly appears to be an AMD driver issue.

Didn't you post a while ago saying discussion over and you're going out? You're still posting so I hope you're not aggrieved that you're posting on your phone while on the move or something.

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:35

Rusty0611 said:
Are you still going on?! Posting things which have no relevance I see again.

User has issue after new driver. User doesn't have issue with old driver. End of discussion.

You're starting to post at me personally now as I've obviously caused you some grief somewhere. Let it go.

Stop over complicating what clearly appears to be an AMD driver issue.

Didn't you post a while ago saying discussion over and you're going out? You're still posting so I hope you're not aggrieved that you're posting on your phone while on the move or something.

No you did not cause me any grief but when it comes to offering possible solutions it not your job to come in and talk as is it was an unreasonable suggestion, its not your problem.
What you think it is, is irrelevant because you are very narrow when it comes to such issues.
And i gave you an example that was clearly looking like an AMD issue which in the end was not, you would have definitely just blamed AMD for that one.

And yes i have a better smartphone and posting is less of an issue.

gareth170 · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:39

chipachap said:
Between 75-99% in Bf3 for me. Never goes below 68-70% really.

with 12.4 i get between 95-99% on all 3 gpu's.. with 12.6 or higher i only get between 65-85% on all 3 gpu's + less fps

metalmackey · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:46

My cards are at stock and the sound is still broken, so thats deffo the drivers

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:46

gareth170 said:
with 12.4 i get between 95-99% on all 3 gpu's.. with 12.6 or higher i only get between 65-85% on all 3 gpu's + less fps

GPU usage as been going up for me and i have seen other 5xxx owners saying the same, this is in regards to BF3, it seems that the 6xxx is not doing so well.

psychodil · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:50

To Rusty and Final8y, do neither of you get a little suspicious when crashes start happening on one of the hottest days of the year so far? Quite possibly the new driver has increased performance and gpu utilisation and therefore temps, making the card which was only just stable before, unstable now (if that makes sense).

I find my load temps vary up to 5 degrees from driver to driver.

DigitalPrime · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:52

Running 12.8, Im still getting that random flicker when browsing the net. But apart from that. BF3 seems to run abit smoother, If it could get any smoother. Heaven gave me 90 more points which pushes me to 2180. But that flicker... its as annoying as the thunderbug stuck behind my new LCD...Grrrr

gareth170 · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:55

Final8y said:
GPU usage as been going up for me and i have seen other 5xxx owners saying the same, this is in regards to BF3, it seems that the 6xxx is not doing so well.

yeah for me the drop happens in nearly all games. Dirt 1/2/Showdown / f1 2011 as the worse drops

Rusty0611 · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:55

Final8y said:
No you did not cause me any grief but when it comes to offering possible solutions it not your job to come in and talk as is it was an unreasonable suggestion, its not your problem.
What you think it is, is irrelevant because you are very narrow when it comes to such issues.
And i gave you an example that was clearly looking like an AMD issue which in the end was not, you would have definitely just blamed AMD for that one.

And yes i have a better smartphone and posting is less of an issue.

Bit sad to be doing that, but hey ho!

If you care to peruse the forums you will see plenty of posts from me helping users out. Not the point though and we're only discussing it because you've gone off on a complete tangent and started ranting... Again....

Carry on posting tangential nonsense. Please it's fairly amusing when you accuse someone of narrow mindedness and then start off every post with a petty dig in their direction. Pot... kettle....

Rusty0611 · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:57

psychodil said:
To Rusty and Final8y, do neither of you get a little suspicious when crashes start happening on one of the hottest days of the year so far? Quite possibly the new driver has increased performance and gpu utilisation and therefore temps, making the card which was only just stable before, unstable now (if that makes sense).

I find my load temps vary up to 5 degrees from driver to driver.

Potentially. Would assume the cards default fan curve would keep it under that level though.

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 21:57

psychodil said:
To Rusty and Final8y, do neither of you get a little suspicious when crashes start happening on one of the hottest days of the year so far? Quite possibly the new driver has increased performance and gpu utilisation and therefore temps, making the card which was only just stable before, unstable now (if that makes sense).

I find my load temps vary up to 5 degrees from driver to driver.

I never worries about the hot days as im air-conditioned, but still BF3 has managed to put my card into the 90% before i turned up the GPU fans, which would lead to stuttering as one GPU would throttle back to 500Mhz and only alt tabbing would bring the clocks back up.
If it was not for AB OSD i would have been scratching my head as to why the performance drop as it was the only game at the time to heated my cards up so much.

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 22:04

Rusty0611 said:
Bit sad to be doing that, but hey ho!

If you care to peruse the forums you will see plenty of posts from me helping users out. Not the point though and we're only discussing it because you've gone off on a complete tangent and started ranting... Again....

Carry on posting tangential nonsense. Please it's fairly amusing when you accuse someone of narrow mindedness and then start off every post with a petty dig in their direction. Pot... kettle....

Many people post with there smart phones, maybe you should keep that opinion to yourself.

And everything else you have just said i will leave that to just being your personal opinion as well because all i have seen from you is dodging.
I didn't rant at the OP and there is no tangent at all, its standard practice of elimination which you clearly don't understand.

If you just want to blame the drivers right out then fine by me, but don't come in here telling me to do so.

borley · 19 Aug 2012 at 22:10

Rusty0611 said:
Potentially. Would assume the cards default fan curve would keep it under that level though.

Yeah i have a Gigabyte 7970 x3 WF the coolings very good hardly goes over 60c under load i use the afterburner stock fan curve, as AMD auto is rubbish, 33% most of the time. My CPU is watercooled but of course temps have risen slightly as it is rather warm down south.
Regards

Rusty0611 · 19 Aug 2012 at 22:16

I didn't tell you to blame the drivers. I asked why you were doing everything but possibly considering they could be the problem. You have seen the error of your ways and now admitted that I'm probably right. Issue resolved.

Dodging? Where?

You're going round in circles now mate. Not with me, with yourself. Worst kind of round in circles. Everything in between the points that have been made is where you've basically used some derogatory term towards me

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Good work.

Final8y · 19 Aug 2012 at 22:37

Rusty0611 said:
I didn't tell you to blame the drivers. I asked why you were doing everything but possibly considering they could be the problem. You have seen the error of your ways and now admitted that I'm probably right. Issue resolved.

Dodging? Where?

You're going round in circles now mate. Not with me, with yourself. Worst kind of round in circles. Everything in between the points that have been made is where you've basically used some derogatory term towards me .

Good work.

I already said it could be the drivers, but maybe try these suggestions which basically all i have done, but you are the number-one Anti AMD driver person on this forum atm by looking at some of the other run ins you have had with other members lately when it comes to AMD drivers.

So yeah its you who went on a tangent with your unsatisfactory reply when its not your system and its upto the OP to what's unsatisfactory when it comes to his setup.

He could need a Voltage increase somewhere.
The OCing software may need to be altered, files added, re installed for the new driver.
Maybe he needs to Driversweep for it to work, not my first choice.
Re install the OS.
Its all upto him what suggestions he wants to try out and not you.

There are loads of possibilities, but hell no Rusty0611 says no, don't suggest anything but the rollback or as your going on a tangent suggesting anything otherwise because Rusty0611 knows best when it comes to AMD drivers.

Rusty0611 · 19 Aug 2012 at 22:44

You're right there could be a whole plethora of issues.

However, it was fine before on the old drivers and now it's not on these ones. I hope you don't deal with your clients in such over complicating ways otherwise you may find yourself out of business if they get wind of it! It'd be like those plumbers who charge for a whole rework of the pipes when the tap is broken.

This isn't about me no matter how much you try to turn it into some kind of odd personal crusade.

Everything I say you completey ignore and you proceed to argue with yourself about something I haven't said.

p.s. your grammar is appalling.