Soldato
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Presumably you don't have many friends?
Next-Gen Consoles "Quantum Leap Forward"?
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Presumably you don't have many friends?
Good job they don't need to run a load of bloatware in the background then
Yep, I'm just making sure people don't get their hopes up. I saw somebody claiming next gen will be capable of Avatar graphics on another website (LOL)
would be interesting to see what apple offers if enter the console market
whether they'll try to compete on specs with sony/MS - maybe aiming for the sort of success sony had when introducing the PS1
or whether they'll not try to compete in that way and just aim to do something innovative with a lower specs like the nintendo wii
The amount of console hate here is alarming 
My first games machines were consoles. Atari 2600. MegaDrive. They were awesome.
The concept of a games console is a tried and proven one. A good one. The vast majority of gamers own and enjoy a console at some point. There is nothing wrong with games consoles.
Additionally, consoles can afford to be lower spec. All of the software that's run on them is optimised for one set of hardware. They can get away with less RAM and slightly lower GFX cababilities. Also they don't need to run AV, or Windows.
Calm down, dearies Some of you will have heart attacks very young if you get this worked up over a rival gaming platform
[this thread was in GD when I posted, btw]
My first games machines were consoles. Atari 2600. MegaDrive. They were awesome.
The concept of a games console is a tried and proven one. A good one. The vast majority of gamers own and enjoy a console at some point. There is nothing wrong with games consoles.
Additionally, consoles can afford to be lower spec. All of the software that's run on them is optimised for one set of hardware. They can get away with less RAM and slightly lower GFX cababilities. Also they don't need to run AV, or Windows.
Calm down, dearies
Some of you will have heart attacks very young if you get this worked up over a rival gaming platform [this thread was in GD when I posted, btw
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Don't want a quantum leap forward in graphics, I want a quantum leap forward in gameplay or at least something original when the next gen consoles are released.
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Depends on the scale, the whole world? Or scene by scene(small worlds)
I imagine aslong as its produced well, it could be done.
happens everytime a new console is released
they will be very fast and higher spec than most think but remember they have to last like 6-8 years !!
xbox sony will lose for many years on the actual consoles but make up on games. always been the same. the xbox 360 at the time had the equivalent of top high end card at the time on pc and a fast cpu in comparison.
this will be no different . i think youll have graphic power somewhere like a 670 gtx or 7950 in it . like i said remember it has to last a looooooong time.
and games like unreal 4 engine run at 30 fps on a 680 gtx.
the new cod will be launching with the new cod title and supposed to be using unreal4 engine.
they will be very fast and higher spec than most think but remember they have to last like 6-8 years !!
xbox sony will lose for many years on the actual consoles but make up on games. always been the same. the xbox 360 at the time had the equivalent of top high end card at the time on pc and a fast cpu in comparison.
this will be no different . i think youll have graphic power somewhere like a 670 gtx or 7950 in it . like i said remember it has to last a looooooong time.
and games like unreal 4 engine run at 30 fps on a 680 gtx.
the new cod will be launching with the new cod title and supposed to be using unreal4 engine.
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i hate to pick you up on this, but of the consoles dont sell because they turn out to be crud then people will get their gaming fix elsewhere, presumably on the PC
i havent looked at the figures, but i know that the sales of PC games are increasing and the sales of console games are decreasing. if the next gen consoles are utterly hopeless then that trend will continue and PC gaming will swallow up at least some of the deficit of the consoles.
And what compatibility BS is that?
It annoys many PC gamers when devs and publishers treat them like wretched, filthy, untrustworthy villeins and console gamers like nobility. PC gamers get a raw deal in various ways, not least that few devs bother making actual PC games. Even games explicitly described as having been designed for PCs are often clearly designed for consoles, with cut-down graphics and an interface designed for a console's gamepad, and that's amongst the best. Many are just console games made to work on a PC, essentially using a PC as an emulator and brute-forcing the inefficiencies with the PC's vastly higher power. I've bought "PC" games from major devs and publishers that can only be played with an Xbox360 controller, have Xbox360 graphics and which don't even have an option to quit to the destop from the game's menu.
I can understand why devs and publishers want to kill off PC gaming. Consoles are much cheaper to make games for and it's much easier for publishers to control console players for continued profit, i.e. no fan content to compete with whatever paid-for DLC devs and publishers want to put out and no fan content improving the graphics in older games to the extent that they compete graphically with the sequels that devs/publishers want to sell on the back of improved graphics. In short, it's easier to develop console games in the first place and it's easier to sell more DLC for them and it's easier to make a sequel to cash in on any successful game. On top of that, console gamers are used to higher prices. So consoles are more profitable all the way.
I understand why they do it, but I'd like them to do it honestly.
I had a megadrive and a snes. Consoles were much more convenient for gaming than PCs in those days, but the difference is much less now. Other people want to game on consoles? Fine by me. Consoles are still more convenient for gaming (just less so than in the past) and they're cheaper up front. More expensive if you play more than a small number of games, but cheaper up front.
It's not consoles that bother me. It's the effect they have on PC gaming.
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All the stuff you've listed out below for me, coupled with hardware issues / windows throwing random tantrums etc all the usual hardware and software gremlins.
Aside from the risk of my 360 failing in a huge cloud of overheating smoke i have no such woes.
I should probably add that for the past 15 years i've been a huge PC gamer and i used to spend countless thousands of pounds per year making sure i was at the cutting edge of performance.
The above is what annoys me about PC gaming ourdays, problem is console gaming isn't going to die anytime soon, i'd rather embrace what is rather than moaning about what used to be.
Don't you think this could be due to the fact most console platforms are due a new generation and what we have has gone stale?
Nothing I wrote about was the "compatibility BS" you referred to.
Which aren't usual. Not any more, anyway.
I didn't say that console gaming should die or propose that as a solution to the problems imposed on PC gaming that I mentioned.
I didn't moan about that used to be.
I'd rather not consider it very wrong to make any criticism of dishonestly undermining the PC as a gaming platform.
To be honest it was well built the problem came from the lead free solder they had to use to conform to new environmental laws, as apparently lead solder has more flex in it than the lead free stuff they were using.
Kimbie
No, it's the fact that consoles hold back the gaming industry. The graphical capabilities PC's have, we won't see, because of consoles.
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Explain to me why PCs cant branch out on their own? Why a console is stopping PCs from "show its true graphical potential"
Consoles have existed for years, and PC gaming as existed along side it. How come now all of a sudden the little silly elitists need to assign blame to consoles for the stale PC market?
The majority of games on the market are developed on consoles first and ported over to the PC with minor upgrades and sometimes just lazily ported over like Dark Souls for example. Games such as Crysis 1, Metro 2033 and The Witcher 2 that were developed on the PC first showcase the graphical power PC's have. All we ask is that games are developed on the PC first and then massively cut down to run on a playskool device, oops, I mean console.
Lol, OK.
You're not doing yourself any favours, I suspect you're what, 13/14 with that attitude of yours.
Definitely isnt the consoles what's holding back the gaming industry and graphical capabilities of PC's. Its the developers who are lazy and cant be bothered start new IP's. Instead they work on 10 year old game engines, give it a number after the title yearly and expect it to sell.
I only recently got a xbox console, pretty much given up on pc due to lack of games, i dont play online at all. Now, if there is a game on both platforms i look at xbox before pc
I built my pc around i7 920 and amd6950 and bavent upgraded, bescause i play rts games mainly and there arent any good ones any more. Infact i havent played a pc game in months. updates, forced online and lag from having to tweak tbe settings also doesnt help.
Hoping new gen consoles allow me to leave my pc as is for years, i will just play the old games i have, when a game worked straight from cd with no updates. Id love new xbox to have a good option for playing any new rts games, say a mouse. That would completely turn me to console
I built my pc around i7 920 and amd6950 and bavent upgraded, bescause i play rts games mainly and there arent any good ones any more. Infact i havent played a pc game in months. updates, forced online and lag from having to tweak tbe settings also doesnt help.
Hoping new gen consoles allow me to leave my pc as is for years, i will just play the old games i have, when a game worked straight from cd with no updates. Id love new xbox to have a good option for playing any new rts games, say a mouse. That would completely turn me to console