Ford Mustang is coming in Right Hand Drive...in 2015

Not everything is about V8s (even though I love them) in 2012.

P.s. Mustang is not a muscle car!
 
Joe T said:
Not everything is about V8s (even though I love them) in 2012.

P.s. Mustang is not a muscle car!
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any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving.
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A mustang with a V8 = Muscle car

A mustang without a V8 = not

A Mustang should be a muscle car... that's the whole point of the damn things
 
Compare standard to standard. A stock v8 mustang is NOT 600 bhp

It's a bit over 400bhp

Turbo v6 is 370 bhp.
Give the v6 to some tuner with a laptop and find yourself with 450 horses and far superior torque figures to the v8 granted its not a v8 noise but it's as quick almost just as tuneable more so on a simple cheap upgrade ie a remap oh and the 6 will give far better economy to the v8

Oh and I would get good money on a low emission 2l diesel mustang at launch
 
crinkleshoes said:




A mustang with a V8 = Muscle car

A mustang without a V8 = not

A Mustang should be a muscle car... that's the whole point of the damn things
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And from your wiki quote:

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Mustang = Pony Car. ;)


As for enthusiast market...they still have to cater for EU/UK regulations and look at the cost of the car to buy. I suspect that due to all the costs involved in bringing the cars to the UK, the V8 just isn't viable, enthusiast or not. As I also said earlier, it is highly likely that tuners will import crate V8 engines and fit them for you resulting in your V8, but it'll come at a premium.
 
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crinkleshoes said:




A Mustang should be a muscle car... that's the whole point of the damn things
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Was that Lee Iaccoca's vision? I think not. How many of the mid-sixties Mustangs were six pots? And even the first V8s put out no more than 200bhp.

Fom wikipedia

Defining the class

The 1964 Mustang provided the template for the new class of automobiles.[7][8] The term itself "was coined by Dennis Shattuck, who was editor of Car Life magazine" at the time.[9] The term "originates from the equestrian sounding Ford Mustang",[2] and may also refer to the Ford Mustang's logo (a galloping pony).

Although the Mustang was based on the platform of the Falcon, it had a unique body (offered as a hardtop coupé and a convertible) with distinctive, "long hood, short deck" proportions. In basic form it was mechanically mundane, with a 170 cu in (2.8 L) six-cylinder engine coupled to a three-speed manual transmission. It carried an attractive base price of US$2,368 that included bucket seats, carpeting, floor shifter, sport steering wheel, and full wheel covers. The Mustang also had an extensive option list offering a range of V8 engines, Cruise-O-Matic automatic transmission or four-speed manual gearbox, radios, air conditioning, power steering, and other accessories.[10] A V8 Mustang with all available options would cost about 60% more than a basic model with a six-cylinder engine, which made it an extremely profitable model for Ford.[11]

The requirements for these two-door, four passenger capacity models were therefore set:[12][13]

Stylish and sporty styling that included "long hoods, short decks, and open mouths"
Assembled from "off-the-shelf" mass production components
Affordable base price (under $2,500 — in 1965 dollar value)
Wide range of options to individualize each car
Youth-oriented marketing and advertising.

While most of the pony cars offered more powerful engines and performance packages, enough to qualify some into muscle car territory, a substantial number were sold with six-cylinder engines or ordinary V8s.[14] For the most part, the high-performance models saw limited sales and were largely limited to drag racing, road racing, or racing homologation purposes.
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Joe T said:
Was that Lee Iaccoca's vision? I think not. How many of the mid-sixties Mustangs were six pots? And even the first V8s put out no more than 200bhp.

Fom wikipedia
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Your post backs up my assertion?

While most of the pony cars offered more powerful engines and performance packages, enough to qualify some into muscle car territory, a substantial number were sold with six-cylinder engines or ordinary V8s.[14] For the most part, the high-performance models saw limited sales and were largely limited to drag racing, road racing, or racing homologation purposes.
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No "enthusiast" would buy the 6-pot.
 
crinkleshoes said:
370BHP -> 660BHP... I fail to understand how that's even marginally comparable :p
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Can you at least compare apples with apples, the stock V8 is just over 400 BHP! I'm sure if a tuner took their hands to the V6 they could extract much more power but they don't bother because there's a V8 which gives more power to start off with.
 
crinkleshoes said:
Your post backs up my assertion?
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I like how you chose to ignore the next sentence about 'ordinary V8s' that right there is what throws the Mustang out of being a muscle car. The 'hot'/'tuned' versions can slide into muscle car territory but the stock ones are a Pony car.

crinkleshoes said:
No "enthusiast" would buy the 6-pot.
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It is a 300hp '6 pot' it is not some lethargic 170hp I6 like in my BMW! Whilst enthusiasts/purists would want the V8 they will be happy with the V6 due to the power output for the car, as I have stated countless times, the V6 outputs the same power as the V8 from 5 years ago. The only real difference is that you'll get better economy and not as burbley a noise.
 
Hi there

Mustangs, mmmm my favourite topic.

To clarify some of the armchair experts here:-

1. They don't weigh 1.8-2.0 tonne. Weight varies between 1550kg - 1650kg dependent on engine / options.
2. They are not sub 10MPG, all figures from the US, add 20% and typically the new V8 will average circa 22-23MPG and is capable of 30+MPG on a motorway run, the V6 quite a bit more. :)
3. V6 is no longer rubbish, its a powerful engine, with great economy and both engines have superb tuning ability.
4. Mustang is a platform, so you can buy a basic car and overtime turn it into a Shelby, SuperSnake etc. etc. if you really wanted.
5. They are without a doubt an awesome car for tuning/modding, Ford built a standard car with huge potential, but lets it customers get the potential out of them. Though Ford are now showing us what is possible with the platform, BOSS 302, Leguna Seca, SuperSnake's etc.

I can actually talk from owning one for nearly 4 years, tuning it too 577BHP on stock engine internals, up-rating all the suspension, brakes etc. and it never missing a beat.

A truly superb car and one which went round cars superbly well, to which the people who who went out in it or tried keeping up with it will testify. :)

For examples of the tuning potential and how big the Mustang market is check sites such as:-
www.steeda.com
www.saleen.com
http://www.roushperformance.com/
http://www.teamjdm.com/
www.brentspeed.com
 
661 is crazy power. I watched Kyle on YouTube go round one the other week, awesome looking car. Hope you enjoy it very jealous!
 
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