Yes but i wouldn't kill you for it ** Personal attacks on other members will not be tolerated ** . That would make me 100 times worse of a human being then you were for insulting me.
US official killed in embassy raid in Libya
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Yes but i wouldn't kill you for it ** Personal attacks on other members will not be tolerated ** . That would make me 100 times worse of a human being then you were for insulting me.
Do you understanding how a poorly produced video mocking a religion or religious icon is not what that act is about?
Are you suggesting while we should be allowed to mock and make comedy of celebrities, monarchs, prime minsters and presidents, somehow religion should be ring fenced as special? We've been there in the past and frankly its not a good place to be!
The video we're talking about there is offending the people in question how? Is it being played by force in front of them? Or are they actively seeking it thus to be offended? Indeed I suspect most of the buffoons complaining haven't even seen it.
There's a finger of blame here, but point it in the right direction.
Comparing Salman Rushdie to those two people? Really?
Oh yes silly me the idea behind that video was humour ... there was no agenda behind it whatsoever. It was made specifically for the US comedy circuit by a well know US standup comedian and US filmmaker of long recognised comical excellence.
It was made to offend. Pure and simple. They are therefore culpable for what ensues.
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The plot thickens!
The ambassador was on an unannounced and confidential visit to Benghazi during the attack. This means that someone with connections to the embassy had to have leaked confidential info on the ambassadors whereabouts to the terrorists.
Further, the attacks were preplanned, and organized involving at least 125 men. This means that the terrorists knew well in advance where the ambassador would be.
The attack came as a surprise to many Libyans as ambassador Chris Stevens was popular amongst the Libyan people because many believed he prevented a massacre during the ousting of Gadhafi
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-embassy-attack-but-did-nothing-16210837.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/09/13/3057279/no-protest-before-benghazi-attack.html
The ambassador was on an unannounced and confidential visit to Benghazi during the attack. This means that someone with connections to the embassy had to have leaked confidential info on the ambassadors whereabouts to the terrorists.
Further, the attacks were preplanned, and organized involving at least 125 men. This means that the terrorists knew well in advance where the ambassador would be.
The attack came as a surprise to many Libyans as ambassador Chris Stevens was popular amongst the Libyan people because many believed he prevented a massacre during the ousting of Gadhafi
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-embassy-attack-but-did-nothing-16210837.html
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/09/13/3057279/no-protest-before-benghazi-attack.html
They are culpable? It seems someone in a basement overdubs a video and throws it onto youtube. A mob of religious idiots take offense to nothing more than just "words" and decide to attack and kill innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with the matter.
It appears you are defending the violence and killing of innocent individuals, and instead laying the blame on some numpty for over dubbing a film?
You should frankly be ashamed of yourself IMHO.
Quiet you! with your relevant and sourced material, can't you see people are busy trying to mock each others intelligence and levels of understanding, not dilly dally with this sort of information!
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^nice try to derail this thread but we are not here to **** off another religion. We are talking about the video and the US official that got killed in Libya.
Typical GD behavior. even chav like.
edit: also I notice a lot of inconsistency from that wiki site, a very poor source of information.
Typical GD behavior. even chav like.
edit: also I notice a lot of inconsistency from that wiki site, a very poor source of information.
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So to summarise - The current suggestion is now there were no demonstration(s) at the embassy in question. Instead a (well planned) terrorist attack was carried out. That would explain how the guards were overcome!
And separate to this, we now have all the violence/demonstrations at other embassy's around the globe due the video?
I was talking about the video too...
should I have pointed out the obvious again, that it was a pre planned attack and it was strange that the knew the ambassador was going to be there? as if this was new news today?
try to keep up:
posted by me two days ago
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22758515&postcount=136
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Did anyone else see this onion article? pretty much sums up the mindset of people who worship Islam, cracked me up.
No One Murdered Because Of This Image.
No One Murdered Because Of This Image.
Indeed! How long until people get so annoyed at these 14th century antics that it kicks off "Mohammed Film Day," akin to the "Draw Mohammed Day"?
Very nicely done! But to be fair, it is a cultural thing, not so much a religious thing. Just so happens this cultural things seems to be tied into a number Muslim cultures.
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It would appear as if I were defending the violence if I had of used the words accountable or responsible yet I used the word culpable.
The fact you say it is just words indicates an ignorance on your behalf or a willful lack of understanding and context.
So sorry - I don't feel ashamed for calling someone out on presenting a wholly one-sided argument that fuels their anti-Islamic sentiments that also are clearly demonstrated, rather poorly, in your recent thread in Speaker's Corner.
I bet this guy will be next on the list http://www.channel4.com/programmes/islam-the-untold-story
I wish Monty python would do a film on islam like they did on christ
I wish Monty python would do a film on islam like they did on christ
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This thread is awesome, usual trolls getting their digs in 
It does indeed appear you are defending the violence. When you seemingly only put blame on the video and its maker (or makers), what else are we to believe?
Where is your blame for the individuals carrying out the mindless protests/violence? These are the only individuals truly at fault here.
If you had used accountable, responsible or culpable, they all to mean an allocation of blame towards the maker(s).
This is where we clearly differ. I see people reacting violently towards just words as unacceptable. You seemingly do not given your repeated condemnation of the video rather anything else..
One sided in that I put full blame on the individuals behind the violence? Guilty as charged. Again, I see no reason why words directed at an individual should result in violent mob action.
The ridiculous things is, if you actually read my posts you'll see I've gone to lengths not to generalise and point out this is primarily a cultural issue, not a religious one. But maybe this just clearly demonstrates what you want to see.
It's interesting in light of this news etc, that the BBC (& other new outlets) are still suggesting demonstrators caused the deaths - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19602177