Korean Grand Prix 2012, Yeongam - Race 16/20

Head of the table indeed
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And on the subject of grosjean :eek:

 
He's out grabbing the ice cream :D

Going up the left then back down, I see:

Glock
Kamui
Riccardo
Hulk?
NFI? Who's the bearded guy?
Lewis
Vergne
Someone with a blue top on
Grosjean
Button
Di Resta
Webber
de la Rosa
Senna
Perez
Vettel
Massa
Nico

Meaning were missing Alonso, Narain, Pic, Heikki, Petrov, Maldonado, Schumacher...

Isnt Alonso at the opposite end - with the blue top?

Im not sure its far too blurred for me by that point, but thats my guess

Great photo


edit sorry just realised there are two slightly different pics lol
 
What interests me most about the seating plan is whether it was prearranged or not. I wouldn't have thought Vettel would've been sat where he was... but then again I don't know who he's pally with. Button makes sense (knowing that him and Webber are good mates, Paul no doubt gets on well with Jenson as well with them both being Brits etc.) and Hamilton's mingling in there as well.

Interesting :)
 
Yeah its Alonso down the bottom end oposite Grosjean. Still got no idea who the guy half way down on the left is though, white top.

Also just spotted there is someone between Lewis and Vergne, but can't tell who.
 
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Yeah its Alonso down the bottom end oposite Grosjean. Still got no idea who the guy half way down on the left is though, white top.

Also just spotted there is someone between Lewis and Vergne, but can't tell who.

Stolen from reddit

Left row: Glock, Kobayashi, Ricciardo, Hulkenberg, Dani Clos, Hamilton, Maldonado, Vergne, Alonso
Right row: Rosberg, Massa, Vettel, Perez, Senna, de la Rosa, Webber, Button, di Resta, Grosjean
 
Boring track,exciting possibilities results wise. Alonso gearbox dnf, Hamilton crashes while posting on Twitter, Mark win by 20 seconds Seb 2nd.
 
Why are people saying the Red Bull isn't the best car this year, its been close between the top three teams all year. When the Red Bull has been out front, its been utterly, by a mile ridiculously far ahead. Vettel was ridiculously faster than everyone last week, he could have cruised IN QUALIFYING and still gotten pole and he did cruise in the race. Valencia, where he got a DNF, he still had by a freaking enourmous margin the best car.

Mclaren has had their races but, when he was last leading and the car crapped out on him, was he 15-20 seconds ahead (or on that pace ignoring safety cars).

The races the Red Bull has been awesome its been completely unbeatable, 3 second longer pitstop wouldn't matter, spins, no problem. Outside of failure they haven't been beatable. The few races Ferrari have been the best car in race pace, they haven't had a significant margin and a single bad pitstop could have taken plenty of points off them. Mclaren have rarely had a significantly faster car, and bad pitstops have taken dozens of points off them.

Up till Mclarens run of 4 races where the car was quite obviously the best, they weren't for the majority of races before that, and certainly weren't last weekend either.

Anyway, its too early to claim a "best car" if Vettel wins the every race from now till the end of the season with a 15+ second winning margin... it will be hard to argue he didn't have the best car.

Been an odd year with no consistency at all in terms of finishing.

Vettel had 3 or 4 races max outside the top 2 last season, Hamilton only had 5 races below a 6th(3 retirements) and 6 podiums, year before he only had 4 races outside the top 6(3 retirements), 9 podiums.

This season, Alonso 8 podiums, only 4 races below a 5th, 2 of those retirements. Vettel 6 podiums, 3 races below a top 6(one of those retirements). Hamilton 6 podiums, 7 races outside the top 6(3 retirements).

I'm looking on http://www.formula1.com/results/driver/2012/828.html which really does it by classification rather than retirement but it won't change much.

The Mclaren is the "worst" car when its been bad, the Red Bull/Ferrari have made noticeably more points when the car hasn't been capable of a podium than Mclaren, the Ferrari has been the least capable of winning, but the most capable of a top 3 finish.

Also I can't be sure but Vettel and Alonso have won races due to being 2nd or lower and cars infront failing.. not sure Hamilton has had that happen yet.
 
Anyone else staying up, rare day off for me to watch it.

Staying up for fp1, I won't be able to stay up for fp2, might not even make it all the way through fp1. Unexpected week off, only days I could use up my AL before losing it, without loosing lots of extra pay.
 
bah, fp1 I might stay up for, had exam today, first proper exam in 5+ years and even then it was basic and easy exams before then, still pumped. FP1 is usually crap though, won't have the staying power for FP2. Maldonado to hit someone off on purpose and Grosjean to tag Webber would make it interesting though.

EDIT:- just read bits of the press conference from yesterday.... why are they asking if Alonso thinks Kimi should apologise like Grosjean to Webber? Kimi got alongside, completely fine, Alonso caused the contact, Alonso turned into him and Alonso forced him off the track. It wasn't intentional but Alonso was 100% in the wrong wasn't he, unless some random video I missed showed Kimi doing something wrong?

Really think not a huge amount has been made about it, he was unaware of who was around him, caused a collision, pushed someone off the track and was inches away from taking out half the grid, I can't help but think he's got away with incredibly little criticism for something almost any other driver would be absolutely destroyed for. Sure he doesn't do stupid stuff often, at all, and shouldn't get a major ban or anything, but a penalty in this race wouldn't have been out of order, and the press blaming Kimi seems insane to me.
 
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