I don't think the desktop version of hyper-v is very good, might want to try it out with a new VM install first
Windows 8 who's buying/upgrading
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I don't think the desktop version of hyper-v is very good, might want to try it out with a new VM install first
My opinion after 24 hours use is that Win8 is a worthwhile upgrade over Vista, but now worth bothering if you already have Win7. To me, Win8 feels like Win7 with a pretty tablet derived interface sitting on top of it. I things that annoy me most with Win8 are pretty basic, lack of an easy to reach shutdown/restart button and not being able to close apps after use. Some people may not see this as a problem, but if you have opened lots of apps, you then have to hunt between them to find something you want.
Win8 is certainly not as big a jump as the leap from Vista to Win7. However, it is better than the XP to Vista jump that simply slowed everything down.
On the positive side, Win8 feels slightly faster than a fresh Win7 install and the Apps will become great in the future.
Win8 is certainly not as big a jump as the leap from Vista to Win7. However, it is better than the XP to Vista jump that simply slowed everything down.
On the positive side, Win8 feels slightly faster than a fresh Win7 install and the Apps will become great in the future.
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Is it not the same as the server version? (excluding the extra managment tools)
It's definitely a bigger leap than Vista to Win7 - just that some people don't perceive it that way.
You can close apps by clicking and dragging the top edge of the screen downwards until it disappears, or right-click and close from the left edge app switcher.
OK here is my 10 pence worth:-
Certainly feels snappy but I still can't say I'm in love with Metro (or whatever we're supposed to call it now). Hovering the mouse in the corners can sometimes be frustrating, I certainly now feel more abstracted from the OS than I did before, or have done in years.
The Win + X key is pretty powerful but I now need to be seem to be using the keyboard more than I did before in Win7. Also it just looks ugly, like something that has been thought of at the last minute to get around the gaping need that the missing "START" button has introduced. The lack of transparencies while giving a crisp feel does make Win8 feel a bit clinical, it's functional rather than pretty.
The Metro interface really needs you to have touchscreen, using the keyboard or mouse to navigate it just now feels a bit alien, I can't quite get my head around why I'd want to use that interface with a keyboard and mouse.
I'm sure there are bags of improvements under the hood but most of those are lost in me right now, I feel more awkward around Windows than I have for years. Once I'm on the desktop I just feel lost, constantly thinking that wouldn't it just be easier to have the "START" button.
I'm currently resisting the urge to install as "START" button and trying to get used to the new interface, gotta say though it's tough! Can't help feel that METRO is just a bolt-on front end that is more suited to a "touch" device than a desktop PC.
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Certainly feels snappy but I still can't say I'm in love with Metro (or whatever we're supposed to call it now). Hovering the mouse in the corners can sometimes be frustrating, I certainly now feel more abstracted from the OS than I did before, or have done in years.
The Win + X key is pretty powerful but I now need to be seem to be using the keyboard more than I did before in Win7. Also it just looks ugly, like something that has been thought of at the last minute to get around the gaping need that the missing "START" button has introduced. The lack of transparencies while giving a crisp feel does make Win8 feel a bit clinical, it's functional rather than pretty.
The Metro interface really needs you to have touchscreen, using the keyboard or mouse to navigate it just now feels a bit alien, I can't quite get my head around why I'd want to use that interface with a keyboard and mouse.
I'm sure there are bags of improvements under the hood but most of those are lost in me right now, I feel more awkward around Windows than I have for years. Once I'm on the desktop I just feel lost, constantly thinking that wouldn't it just be easier to have the "START" button.
I'm currently resisting the urge to install as "START" button and trying to get used to the new interface, gotta say though it's tough! Can't help feel that METRO is just a bolt-on front end that is more suited to a "touch" device than a desktop PC.
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ok i tried them too and now i am back to win7, its uglier and adds zero functionality over w7. Seriously now adding the start button menus is just like w7 all over again but with an xp appearance. I also have the feeling i was using 2 Os'es in one, strange os w8 is...It would be awesome if we could just get all the under the hood improvements and keep the aero look and feel from w7. But then again it could w8 just a SP2 over w7.
I was unimpressed, will try again next year...till then w7 ftw for me.
I was unimpressed, will try again next year...till then w7 ftw for me.
I think not.
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Just upgrade , I think all the retail versions are the same?
I got the digital version for £25 , dont understand anyone who would bother with a hard copy for £50
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Can anyone tell me what SSD stands for I'm seeing it mentioned a lot on here and have not got a clue what it means?
thanks
thanks
Solid state drive
like all of these http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=2104
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so its different from the standard hdd , thanks
Non mechanical. Lightning fast.
I rated my OS's as follows.
Widows XP = Very good 8/10.
Vista = Very poor 3/10 (it just slowed everything down and 64bit version was very hit and miss to begin with)
Windows 7 = Great 10/10 (faster than Vista, prettier, more features, stable).
Windows 8 = Okay 7/10 (feels just like a modded Win 7 tweaked for touchscreen to me. The only thing I prefer over Win7 is the App implementation)
Widows XP = Very good 8/10.
Vista = Very poor 3/10 (it just slowed everything down and 64bit version was very hit and miss to begin with)
Windows 7 = Great 10/10 (faster than Vista, prettier, more features, stable).
Windows 8 = Okay 7/10 (feels just like a modded Win 7 tweaked for touchscreen to me. The only thing I prefer over Win7 is the App implementation)
It's interesting to see how many people really don't like changes and simply want incremental tweaks to stuff we already have. Perhaps it explains why MS and Apple are always hesitant to make major/new UI changes for an OS for risk of upsetting customers, which I guess is why in 2012 the OS still looks fundamentally the same as in 1995...
I've been using 8 daily on a laptop and gaming PC for months now and really like it having taken the time to customise things to how I want them, even little things like zoom out on the start screen, group your program's how you want them and name the groups. Pin websites and people from the people app out onto the start screen to get live updates etc.
Actually what we could do with is a fresh "So you have Windows, share your tricks, tips and customisation" thread, but I digress.
My observation would be if you want to make windows 8 into 7, don't... Seriously, it's pointless and is doomed to problems sooner or later. I you love win7 and don't like the changes Win8 has brought (and I'm 100% confident there will never be an "official" remove metro option) then really, stick with 7. It's an awesome OS, stop tring to make 8 into something's it's not.
If you're prepared to go with 8 then my advice is do it with an open mind, embrace the new start screen and all the changes, try to work with them rather than against them, accept things are different, take time to learn the changes , make the most of it and regard it as an opportunity to learn/do something new.
If you put 8 on and insist on trying to make it work like 7, or want to carry on doing things the same way it's just going to be frustrating and coUnter intuitive. If you want to give it a go do it properly
8 won't be for everyone, and doesn't have to be, 7 has years of life left in it and works brilliantly.
Finally I would say if you try 8 try to ignore the bandwagon "it's 7 with a touch UI stuck on, it's fine for tablets but doesn't work with a desktop mouse and keyboard, and for the love of god don't install the appalling "start" thing (if you're going to do that just stick with 7 and save yourself a lot time and hassle).
Change isn't for everyone straight away, we saw all the same stuff 10 years ago when XP came out. People ranted it looked like fisher price graphics for kids, was bloated awful piece of software, changed they way they did things and they hated it. People would call anyone using the Luna UI in XP "noobs", "pros" would always enable classic UI mode to make XP look like win 98/2000. Ironically there was the same thing with Vista and even 7 with "pros & pro gamers" clinging to XP
Bottom line for me, it doesn't cost much if you take one of the offers, if you're going to do it, take the time to do it with and open mind, accept it's different and you'll have to learn how to do stuff again and spend time customising it to your own tastes. If you're just going to try and turn it into Win7.5 you're probably better off just sticking with 7 unless you're an uber geek
Hope that doesn't sound argumentative, it's just my observation that most of the frustration seems to be people expecting, or trying to make 8 work like 7, which is never going to be a good experience.
I've been using 8 daily on a laptop and gaming PC for months now and really like it having taken the time to customise things to how I want them, even little things like zoom out on the start screen, group your program's how you want them and name the groups. Pin websites and people from the people app out onto the start screen to get live updates etc.
Actually what we could do with is a fresh "So you have Windows, share your tricks, tips and customisation" thread, but I digress.
My observation would be if you want to make windows 8 into 7, don't... Seriously, it's pointless and is doomed to problems sooner or later. I you love win7 and don't like the changes Win8 has brought (and I'm 100% confident there will never be an "official" remove metro option) then really, stick with 7. It's an awesome OS, stop tring to make 8 into something's it's not.
If you're prepared to go with 8 then my advice is do it with an open mind, embrace the new start screen and all the changes, try to work with them rather than against them, accept things are different, take time to learn the changes , make the most of it and regard it as an opportunity to learn/do something new.
If you put 8 on and insist on trying to make it work like 7, or want to carry on doing things the same way it's just going to be frustrating and coUnter intuitive. If you want to give it a go do it properly
8 won't be for everyone, and doesn't have to be, 7 has years of life left in it and works brilliantly.
Finally I would say if you try 8 try to ignore the bandwagon "it's 7 with a touch UI stuck on, it's fine for tablets but doesn't work with a desktop mouse and keyboard, and for the love of god don't install the appalling "start" thing (if you're going to do that just stick with 7 and save yourself a lot time and hassle).
Change isn't for everyone straight away, we saw all the same stuff 10 years ago when XP came out. People ranted it looked like fisher price graphics for kids, was bloated awful piece of software, changed they way they did things and they hated it. People would call anyone using the Luna UI in XP "noobs", "pros" would always enable classic UI mode to make XP look like win 98/2000. Ironically there was the same thing with Vista and even 7 with "pros & pro gamers" clinging to XP
Bottom line for me, it doesn't cost much if you take one of the offers, if you're going to do it, take the time to do it with and open mind, accept it's different and you'll have to learn how to do stuff again and spend time customising it to your own tastes. If you're just going to try and turn it into Win7.5 you're probably better off just sticking with 7 unless you're an uber geek
Hope that doesn't sound argumentative, it's just my observation that most of the frustration seems to be people expecting, or trying to make 8 work like 7, which is never going to be a good experience.
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You get use to it,besides its the way Microsoft is going,you can expect Win9 to be something along these lines,its very polished for a new OS IMHO,give it a shot since not got much to lose.
I have same motherboard as you ,non PRO version ,running great on 8 overclocked.
Going to upgrade my laptop now once Win7 has finished installing some updates lol(too late to cancel) .
I guess for £25 I can easy just ditch it and go back to Win7 if I hate it as I suspect I will
If you go for the £25 digital download, can you burn it to a disk? Can you then use the disk for a clean install? Or does it have to go over the top of my Win7 install?