Not a chance they can match it. It's going to be around £100 more for Nokia.
So are all phone prices gonna tumble now?
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Not a chance they can match it. It's going to be around £100 more for Nokia.
Or request a GiffGaff SIM and you can get one for free
This is definitely going to be my next phone. Windows Phone 8 is a disappointment and Apple aren't doing anything of interest at the moment so that's pretty much a given
4" 480x800 233 ppi SLCD VS 4.7" 1280x768 318ppi IPS
RAM 512MB VS 2GB
Storage 4GB VS 16GB although the 8S has SD slot
camera 8MP VS 5MP (granted MP doesn't mean very much at all) 8S can only record 720P and the 8S doesn't have a front camera
Dual S4/adreno 225 VS S4 quad/adreno 320
2100mah battery VS 1700mah, granted though the bigger battery is needed due to higher res/bigger screen
Amongst other things.
16gb is plenty of space imo. I mean I have a 90gb music collection. There is no way in hell I am putting all of that on my phone. I just have a few playlists and juggle things around when I want to. I do not see the need to have loads and loads and loads of music on my phone all the time. Because I will never listen to it all.
You could aruge about apps and games as they are getting bigger bit by bit. But again just manage it. Delete games when you are done with him. Otherwise you just end up with loads of crap that you don't need and will most likely not use.
But 16gb is plenty of space for a phone.
You could aruge about apps and games as they are getting bigger bit by bit. But again just manage it. Delete games when you are done with him. Otherwise you just end up with loads of crap that you don't need and will most likely not use.
But 16gb is plenty of space for a phone.
The idea isn't "to sell as many products as possible". The idea is "to sell as many products as possible AND tempt (force) people to rely on their cloud based services".
These companies know that future profit doesn't lay with the sale of devices anymore because the market will soon be saturated. It's the cloud services the devices provide access to that will generate new revenue streams. I imagine Google are deliberately holding back the phone's internal storage to promote their new Music streaming service, which, conveniently is getting a big update and officially released in the UK.
In theory I have no problem with this, in practice I'm concerned our 3G network isn't at the level it should be to fully cloudify all our media. Google are taking the "push" approach, which our operators will have to react to. Again, I have no problem with this.
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It's funny reading Glaucus posts on Windows vs the competition
Funny?
What saying that it is a better phone for a very good price, but not unexpected. How is that funny?
If you read what I said, it isn't much higher speced for same cost. It's one revision up on each component basically. It's outstanding value, but I disagree with OP that it will drive down top end phone prices. I also said they've done this, as this is really the first time ever they've had competion at that price point. I also said its good for everyone as it should increase cheap phone specs. But then I think some off you just read what you want, rather than what I've written.
And taht I can't see top end prices tumbling as there are so many new features to add, even though basic phone specs have pretty much hit a wall.
And if you look at his list I said pretty much everything on that list and include a other things as well.
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£370 on there now including shipping. But as said by previous posters, if the S3 were cheaper I would still get the Nexus.
This looks awesome! I use Google Music for all my music and mainly store pictures on my phone so the 16GB one would do the job nicely!
I have an old Desire sitting in my draw which would get me by until this is available - I'm gonna start looking at selling my GS2.
I have an old Desire sitting in my draw which would get me by until this is available - I'm gonna start looking at selling my GS2.
It's posts like this.
...or maybe you just haven't fully read the N4 spec sheet yet?
It has the same optically bonded LG screen as the Lumia 920 (slightly worse polariser but slightly bigger size) and it has features like wireless charging etc.
The only real unique selling point of the Lumia 920 is hardware IS (and more storage) Other than the N4 is twice as fast and twice as cheap.
There's loads of features top end phones can have. I didn't even say 920 screen, I was talking about the screen on the surface.
No, I do not see this lowering top end phone prices.
Better camers with Is, wireless charging, better anti glare, being able to use screens with gloves on, better chassis like vapourMG or similar. That's just features on current phones/tablets. Let alone things like the nano waterproofing which aren't on any device yet.
I am not solely comparing it to the 920. The wp8 are out of sync compared to android apart from a few extra features they're basically 6month month old phones. Should we ignore that wp8 is far more optimized though? Think you'll have to wait for bench marks real world usage before making twice as fast claim.
I also did not say you could get a phone at same price and features. I said its not much more than other new released cheap speced phones. As I sad its pretty much one iteration up on every aspect. As I also said it is no surprise google have done this, as they've had little competition at that price point. I think this is a short term bargain, than a long term game changer. All though competition again over the entire range will mean a bit more of a price war.
It's not twice the price ~470 for 32Gb compared to ~280 for 16Gb
Your right its s4 pro dual vs s4pro quad
The 920 is comparable to the sgs3 same RRP at launch. Obviously the sgs3 has dropped in pric, but the lumia920 has some nice (like any feature if you want it) extra features.
It's IMO very clear why google have done this and what phones wp8 where competing against on price and features.
The wp8 which will be released in new year IMO will sync up to android offerings. HTC has all but confirmed they have a quad core ready to rock in new year.
No, I do not see this lowering top end phone prices.
Better camers with Is, wireless charging, better anti glare, being able to use screens with gloves on, better chassis like vapourMG or similar. That's just features on current phones/tablets. Let alone things like the nano waterproofing which aren't on any device yet.
I am not solely comparing it to the 920. The wp8 are out of sync compared to android apart from a few extra features they're basically 6month month old phones. Should we ignore that wp8 is far more optimized though? Think you'll have to wait for bench marks real world usage before making twice as fast claim.
I also did not say you could get a phone at same price and features. I said its not much more than other new released cheap speced phones. As I sad its pretty much one iteration up on every aspect. As I also said it is no surprise google have done this, as they've had little competition at that price point. I think this is a short term bargain, than a long term game changer. All though competition again over the entire range will mean a bit more of a price war.
It's not twice the price ~470 for 32Gb compared to ~280 for 16Gb
Your right its s4 pro dual vs s4pro quad
The 920 is comparable to the sgs3 same RRP at launch. Obviously the sgs3 has dropped in pric, but the lumia920 has some nice (like any feature if you want it) extra features.
It's IMO very clear why google have done this and what phones wp8 where competing against on price and features.
The wp8 which will be released in new year IMO will sync up to android offerings. HTC has all but confirmed they have a quad core ready to rock in new year.
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The OEMs won't compete; they can't afford to sell handsets at this price. They'll either go bust or pull out of the market. It wouldn't surprise me if our hardware choices are very limited in five years' time, consisting of Google Nexus, Amazon Kindle, Microsoft Surface and Apple devices.
Maybe people would like that? Decreased choice to go along with the decreased prices, and a whole industry dominated by four players? Personally, it's not for me. The lack of competition within each platform, and the need to keep prices as low as possible is only likely to stifle innovation and lead to a stagnant industry.
Maybe people would like that? Decreased choice to go along with the decreased prices, and a whole industry dominated by four players? Personally, it's not for me. The lack of competition within each platform, and the need to keep prices as low as possible is only likely to stifle innovation and lead to a stagnant industry.
The storage is the only real downside here, and it's clearly quite a big one for some people.
As I mentioned previously, if you plan on recording a lot of HD video, storing a lot of music and having a few decent quality TV shows/films on your phone; you're going to struggle. That's not even mentioning some of the larger apps such as HD games.
Obviously you can bypass the music issue with a good data plan - which costs money in most cases - but at this point coverage generally isn't good enough to support video, and it would require a near unlimited data plan.
This is the thing, Google have deliberately made this cheap and deliberately left out expandable storage in order to promote 'the cloud'. If you're happy with 16GB there's hardly a better way to spend £280, but it's disappointing at the same time.
I'm not quite sure how it will affect prices. I doubt most people will see the value in paying twice as much for a Samsung Galaxy S4, whenever that comes out.
As I mentioned previously, if you plan on recording a lot of HD video, storing a lot of music and having a few decent quality TV shows/films on your phone; you're going to struggle. That's not even mentioning some of the larger apps such as HD games.
Obviously you can bypass the music issue with a good data plan - which costs money in most cases - but at this point coverage generally isn't good enough to support video, and it would require a near unlimited data plan.
This is the thing, Google have deliberately made this cheap and deliberately left out expandable storage in order to promote 'the cloud'. If you're happy with 16GB there's hardly a better way to spend £280, but it's disappointing at the same time.
I'm not quite sure how it will affect prices. I doubt most people will see the value in paying twice as much for a Samsung Galaxy S4, whenever that comes out.
It's kind of the same way that satellite TV boxes went. In the 90s you could choose from a whole plethora of different manufacturers, different styles/design, different specs etc. Then Sky made everyone make similar looking boxes and now we have a situation where you basically have no choice as to what box you get. Content is king in that area and not the hardware. The same thing is happening in the mobile industry with the content provider becoming the defacto hardware supplier.
Yep, but I also Hope thats not going to be the way. But I can see it, After all amazon do not make profit on most of their devices, the profit comes from the store. I can't see google making much profit from the nexus 4 either.
But Microsoft have confirmed they will be making more devices. My bet is on the next being a phone.
Storage is a real issue for many people - As well as a decent size music collection, extra apps including GTA3, max payne, etc. which both take up 2+gig each IIRC I also use my phone to backup an additional off-site encrypted copy of some of the projects I'm working on which can easily eat 16GB of space on their own. I also imagine that theres a lot of people who do blogging type stuff, etc. who would easily push well into the 10s of gigs with photos, video recording, etc.