Traffic Appeal

Nathan said:
If the business is closed but the public still have access then it still falls
Under the rta. Ie your tesco car park at night when store is closed.
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Agree.


If it was a private carpark and it was closed to the public at night and gates were closed so there was no public access, then I think you would be ok (as long as you had permission to be there). I cant see the police climbing over a closed gate to give you a ticket either.

Cheers
 
Gaygle said:
You are commiting "an act of defiance to a prohibition, express or implied".
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No, you are not. 'A prohibition' has specific meaning and it is not something a shop can enact by putting signs up.

You are defying the posted store opening hours, at the entrance to the car park.
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No, you are not - besides - since when did a signpost owned and installed on private land by a private company have any bearing on law?

You can drive off the roundabout into the carpark/access roads when the store is closed. It is therefore a road to which the public have access and is covered by the RTA. It's really that simple.
 
Fox is absolutely right. A friend of mine got threatened with a Section 59 for drifting/donutting in an empty Tesco (I think) car park at night after the mega snow we had a couple of years ago.
 
While it is your son and obviously you are going to defend him were you there to see that he was only doing 10mph and behaving himself?

I now teach a group of 19 17-19 year old college kids, they were talking about insurance and how it was a rip off. I mentioned the stupid things that 'some' young people do and all of a sudden half the group had some tale about driving a mates car uninsured and crashing it, banging up their/someone elses moped, backing their car into another car/bike.

Basically young drivers today really need to step up to their responsibilities and not have people trying to bail them out all the time for their own good, just be thankful he wasn't hurt from his stupid action.
 
£60 and 3 points on private land ( yeah ok so public can access it) for not wearing a helmet:confused:

That's it lol, not as if he was speeding at 45 in a 30 whilst on a mobile phone or something blatantly dangerous is it.

How often do we see cyclists without a helmet and lights.
 
I think the only time it's ok is if you've got big fields and lots of real private land i.e. it's yours not just a public accessible "private road".
 
Kuhan said:
My son recently was driving a friend moped in a private car park without a helmet,
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Awesome.
Tell him to keep it up.

Eventually stupidity will kill off the street rats thus saving us money and helping to bring down the cost of insurance.

blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda
 
I'd be concentrating on making sure my Son wore a helmet rather than trying to get him out of a fine.
I'd make him pay the fine & he would have to pay me for being such a ****.
 
CaNsA said:
Awesome.
Tell him to keep it up.

Eventually stupidity will kill off the street rats thus saving us money and helping to bring down the cost of insurance.

blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda
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Wow, the bloke comes here a bit clueless and asking for advice, and you tell him you hope his son dies in a car accident? I know everyone's having a bit of a go at him, but you shouldn't be so desperate to fit in that you say things like this, that's pretty sad.
 
godinman said:
Wow, the bloke comes here a bit clueless and asking for advice, and you tell him you hope his son dies in a car accident? I know everyone's having a bit of a go at him, but you shouldn't be so desperate to fit in that you say things like this, that's pretty sad.
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I didnt say anything about a car or an accident.

It has nothing to do with "wanting to fit in", but bless your cotton socks for trying to take the moral high ground though.
 
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"Eventually stupidity will kill off the street rats thus saving us money and helping to bring down the cost of insurance."

In the context of this thread it's pretty obvious what you mean, or did you just come in here to make a completely random and unrelated statement? Bull, I wonder what stupidity could kill someone and bring down insurance costs...oh, and I wonder who you were talking about in a thread about someones young and slightly reckless son.
 
Are you for real?

My opinion is based on the "young and slightly reckless son" being a street rat.
"Stupidity" is not limited to riding a scooter with out a lid.
Remember that is MY opinion and not a factual statement.

Darwins Law will prevail.
 
Should have taken the 3 points and £60 fine, how anyone can argue against driving without a helmet is beyond me. There is no defence and you will look very stupid trying to think one up.

Your boy needs sorting out now before he seems to think it is ok to much about on a bike without a helmet at higher speeds or do other stupid things that will endanger him and other people.

p1RATE said:
I can run at about 10mph, i think i need a helmet.
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Needs proof or I cry shenanigans!
 
How do you know he was only doing 10mph?.

must have been making a racket to get the attention of a policeman.

Probably revving the **** out of it.
 
Brookert said:
If I was the OP, I would let the boy take the full and fair punishment. Never going to learn otherwise.
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How is that going to help him at all? I am sure he has learnt his lesson purely through the experience, putting him through financial hardship of the fine and 3 points on his license increasing his insurance premium helps no one.

I too would want a child of mine to get out of paying the financial punishment, but then, I'm not a spergy internet warrior who thinks punishment infallibly works.
 
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