Sunday Trading Laws

[muon]

No one is forced to work 7 days a week. These laws are just inconvenient.

I know people who would love to work additional hours on a Sunday. You are not protecting them, they and consumers are being inconvenienced by both having to sit around waiting for shops to open again.

If Sunday became a normal day i still would get two days of in the week. We are entitled to two off per week regardless if we work a Sunday or not. Personaly I treat Sunday as a normal day anyway. still do 11 hours on a sunday so nothing different there..

Exactly and there is the 48 hour working hours directive as well.

For us in London, the temporary abolishing of sunday trading laws were brilliant.

 

[Fubsy]

Everyone should have Wednesday off work. Problem solved.

Heart attack on a Wednesday? Unlucky, should have waited until Thursday.

Milk gone sour? Tough ****, have a black coffee.

The world just doesn't stop any more, and it terrifies me.

 

[SDK^]

No one is forced to work 7 days a week..

My partner is forced to work 7 days in the run up to Xmas. A 100+ hour week and paid for 39 hours.
Retail management sucks.

Exactly and there is the 48 hour working hours directive as well.

Except if you are forced to opt out of it.

 

[Semple]

The Working Regulations Act counters the argument that "retail workers will have to work 7 day shifts". That may be so, however the working regulations act says your employers are not allowed to make you work more than a 48-hour week (averaging over 17 weeks I believe) meaning if you did a standard 8 hour daily shift. You would only have 8 possible hours left to cover a Saturday and a Sunday thus still giving family time.

Besides if Sunday Trading laws were scrapped, the Working Regulations would probably be amended to prohibit employees from working any more than 6 days in a week.

 

[Dave M]

Besides if Sunday Trading laws were scrapped, the Working Regulations would probably be amended to prohibit employees from working any more than 6 days in a week.

It's already there, any 2 in 14 I believe (not necessarily consecutive).

 

[[TW]Fox]

You dont get family time anyway with Sunday hours - the stores are open 10-4 or 11-5 and you usually get there early and finish later so it's not as if there is a pile more time is there?

 

[muon]

My partner is forced to work 7 days in the run up to Xmas. A 100+ hour week and paid for 39 hours.
Retail management sucks.



Except if you are forced to opt out of it.

You aren't forced. She chose to work a 100+ hour week. Sounds like a massive exaggeration as well. I bet you've included travel to and from work and lunch which is probably quite hefty.

I'll ask a few of my friends from university who work as doctors or work in IBD whether they feel they need laws to stop themselves being "forced" to work long hours. They chose their careers and can leave whenever they want.

 

[[TW]Fox]

My partner is forced to work 7 days in the run up to Xmas. A 100+ hour week and paid for 39 hours.

This is unlawful.

 

[muon]

Sunday Trading laws are as arbitrary as the 35 hour working week the French have. Just damaging to the economy and people's freedom to choose.

 

[Jonny ///M]

I used to work Sunday and it never really bothered me unless I was getting the first bus to work straight from town after a heavy night.

I ended up doing a full 10-5 shift and then you do what you do after that. The only issue is if you use public transport it can be tricky with buses as they don't start until say 9.30am and you start at 10am which could make you late.

Now my work is closed on a Sunday and I get a Thursday off and I actually prefer shopping on Thursday as I hate going shopping when it's busy. Sunday is for a wee drive, going cycling or chilling watching F1. The last thing I want to do is shop!

Glasgow Fort is open as follows:

Monday to Friday - 10am - 10pm

Saturday 9am - 6.30pm

Sunday 10am - 6pm

Bank Holidays - 10am - 8pm

Plenty of time to shop.

 

[Semple]

You dont get family time anyway with Sunday hours - the stores are open 10-4 or 11-5 and you usually get there early and finish later so it's not as if there is a pile more time is there?

Also very good point, When I worked in retail my hours were normally 8:30-16:30 to allow for a stock audit before the shop opened for its normal hours (10:30-16:30). So in hindsight people are already working normal hours on the Sunday, it's just a matter that the shop isn't open for trade.

 

[Amp34]

But why do they only start at 9:30 on a sunday? Because of the sunday trading hours..? If shops opened at 8 or 9 on sunday then I am sure buses will run then.

 

[Brookert]

Everyone should have Wednesday off work. Problem solved.

Heart attack on a Wednesday? Unlucky, should have waited until Thursday.

Milk gone sour? Tough ****, have a black coffee.

The world just doesn't stop any more, and it terrifies me.

I couldn't agree more with this. I believe, we as the western civilisation, have completely lost track of what is important in life.

 

[muon]

I couldn't agree more with this. I believe, we as the western civilisation, have completely lost track of what is important in life.

Do what you want with your time but if I want to work every day, businesses and people should be free to.

Besides the world has never stopped. Who supplies your electricity and water on Sundays? Should law enforcement and public services stop on Sunday? News blackout on a Sunday? No post on Monday morning?

People will organise their own leisure time and decide whether they would rather collect a wage for working on a Sunday.

 

[Mr Men]

Can I get that in English?

I'm still all for a full Sunday shutdown like it was when I was a kid. The weekend should be a time for leisure and time spent with the family/friends. And no, it's not on religious grounds. Would improve quality of life more measurably than being able to buy shiny consumer trinkets at 3am on a Monday.

They should shut the internet down as well on a Sunday, so you can spend less time on a forum and more with your family and friends

 

[Castiel]

Why can't people simply shop between 10am and 4pm on a Sunday or use the local mini-market or shop online or use the other 100+ hours the shops are open?

It isn't as if there is not enough provision to do your shopping, whenever or wherever you work.

 

[MagicBoy]

Multitasking. It's the future.

 

[Castiel]

But why do they only start at 9:30 on a sunday? Because of the sunday trading hours..? If shops opened at 8 or 9 on sunday then I am sure buses will run then.

I doubt it....most Sunday services across the country are subsidised contracted services..if it were not for the significant govt subsidy you would have almost no bus services on a Sunday outside London. (Or after 7pm during the week outside of the major urban centres)

 

[SDK^]

You aren't forced. She chose to work a 100+ hour week. Sounds like a massive exaggeration as well. I bet you've included travel to and from work and lunch which is probably quite hefty..

Lunch?!? - what world do you live in !!
She's lucky to get a 10 minute break for a coffee.

She actually works (not including travel) seven 14 hour days.
The extra 2 hours per day is voluntary. She HAS to do at least 12 hours every day.

They chose their careers and can leave whenever they want.

In reality when you have children, a mortgage and other bills walking out of work isn't so easy.

 

[Nevakonaza]

I actually like the Sunday trading hours,That way at least people (especially in retail) get a break.
If its anything like where i work,we work Mon-Sat and they spread out contracted hours over them so Sunday is only really the day we get off!