People that can't hold their drink

I'm 25 and i don't think i've been so drunk that i'm endangering my own health or others for since i was 18 or 19.
I went through a silly late teens phase as a lot of people do, but that's well and truly over. Sure i get drunk now and then with my friends and we have a jolly knees up coming back from London, but we're in control of ourselves/actions.

It's just sad that you see people in their 30s in a complete state, in gutters or fights... i mean really? You're a grown up.

Much rather go out high as a kite and just be chilled. Funny times.
 
Jambo said:
Why is this a reason for YOU not to drink much any more? :confused:
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You lose the appeal of alcohol when you're dealing with drunk people all the time. It's difficult to explain.

rhysduck said:
Is Burnsy a paramedic?
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Nope, Police.

Shotgun_ned said:
I agree completely, and I think anyone who has seen it from our side Burnsy would as well. It would have course be a massive help if the pubs and clubs actually followed the licensing laws and refused to serve people who were already intoxicated.
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I think that is a part of it. There are issues with people actually enforcing it properly though. Loss in revenue for the owner and people getting fighty because they aren't getting served are two.
 
Xordium said:
And that's not mentioning the attacks. We lost a charge nurse many years back because a group of drunken idiots decided they didn't like the fact he was gay. So they waited till he finished his shift and did that every so brave 10 on 1 thing.
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IIRC Southampton General has Police there all the time to deal with 136 patients and things like this.
 
Guest2 said:
Let me know in 10 years when no-one smokes!

...or not
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Did I put a time on it?
Smoking is now seen as vile, usage is dropping. People who smoke are more and more socially shunned. When they can, it will be banned.

Now they have got so far with smoking, they have started on alcohol. Scotland have already introudced several laws, and several laws in the uk, seem to be on there way in soon.
 
Moses said:
Presumably you'll say about the ~British binge drinking~, but, other than anecdotal evidence, can you evidence we do that more than others?
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I wasn't talking about 'binge drinking' although it is undesirable from a health perspective.

Moses said:
I mean, for example, we have similar numbers of liver cirrhosis deaths compared with Italy/France/Spain (per 100 000 people)
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This is actually related to how they consume their alcohol - with food! Studies found that the elevated levels of alcohol persisted for a greater length of time because it was held in the stomach with food being digested, doing the same kind of damage even if the total amount of alcohol consumed was lower. It makes sense. Italy is interesting because their consumption is far lower than the UK / France's, there must be other factors involved.

I haven't ever looked at the levels of chronic alcoholism between these four countries, I would expect there to be a close correlation between it and liver cirrhosis.

What I was getting at more was how people act when they're under the influence of alcohol.
In many countries the 'done thing' is to relax, get more chatty and laugh more as you drink. In many parts of Britian (Especially on friday and saturday nights) it's about getting sloshed, angry and 'alpha'. That's what I was getting at. It's a cultural thing.
 
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Moses said:
Is that more prevalent here, as opposed to on the continent, though? Sure, we have an idealised image of French people chilling on the riviera, drinking fine wine and eating lovely cheese... whilst we have the idea of Geordie Shore... but is either of those stereotypes truly representative of reality?

I can't remember the last time I witnessed anger and violence on a night out, whilst last year when I was in Finland, the French and Spanish contingents were the most mental drunkards! (lolanecdotal evidence...)
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I found out this year that Germans and the Dutch (of which i met) don't actually drink that much at all.
I brought it up last week at our Christmas party, about the drinking and they think we're crazy with the whole "drink until you can't drink any more" attitude we have (seems to be our stereotype to them).
 
Burnsy2023 said:
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+1 on this. Bare in mind I'm fond of my drink and have probably been hammered more times on nights than I can count but I know I'm pretty harmless when drunk. I'm not a big guy so I wouldn't be looking to start fights and I've never done anything stupid that required me needing to A&E. I always manage to find my way home whether I remember it or not. :)
 
Even at 27 and having gone through Uni I've never been so drunk that I can't get home or look after myself, I seldom drink anyway (was pretty much tea total until I my 3rd year of Uni) and even now I've probably been drunk 3 maybe 4 times this year, I just don't drink often; when I do it's to the point of being merry, not smashed.

My Facebook is filled with people my age boasting about how they have gone out and got wrecked beyond belief and done stupid things or woke up somewhere random; i've even gone out a few times at 3/4 in the morning to pick up stranded friends; I am all for a good time but it is frustrating knowing so many people dependant on drink to get them through a weekend/evening.
 
The thing about behaviour changes due to alcoholic consumption is that it's not quite as simple as people think.

On the surface it seems like people simply lose inhibitions - but research has pointed to something quite different.

Each culture has a view as to how people behave while drink, either jolly, loud, violent, happy or miserable (or combinations of the above with with many others).

These socially expected forms of behaviour seem to influence how people on average act while drunk.

In short, people act in accordance to how they are expected to act.

For one example, studies of a small violent tribe in south america which was only peaceful while they were drunk seemed to lend credence to this theory - I'll have to find out the research papers, but plenty of research has been done on the subject.

The reason why in the UK we act like loud stupid annoying louts (even thought in reality we don't really drink that much more than others nations in the EU) is in part due to the fact we are expected to act that way.

Some research also indicated people also act drunk in a similar way to how they viewed drunks while they were a child (my first impressions of drunk people as a kid was my dad simply falling over & being dopey but harmless) - which pretty much reflects how I act.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Don't get me wrong, when I was a student I very much drunk to excess, but I never passed out, I never couldn't get home and I could always more or less look after myself. I never got in a fight, I never needed and ambulance and always had friends who would stick together to make sure everyone got home safely.

Why can't people have some self responsibility?
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Because that would assume that everyone has common sense.
 
Moses said:
Is that more prevalent here, as opposed to on the continent, though? Sure, we have an idealised image of French people chilling on the riviera, drinking fine wine and eating lovely cheese... whilst we have the idea of Geordie Shore... but is either of those stereotypes truly representative of reality?

I can't remember the last time I witnessed anger and violence on a night out, whilst last year when I was in Finland, the French and Spanish contingents were the most mental drunkards! (lolanecdotal evidence...)
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What I have gathered from Youtube clips is that Russians have a similar binge drink attitude to us. :D
 
Glaucus said:
Did I put a time on it?
Smoking is now seen as vile, usage is dropping. People who smoke are more and more socially shunned. When they can, it will be banned.

Now they have got so far with smoking, they have started on alcohol. Scotland have already introudced several laws, and several laws in the uk, seem to be on there way in soon.
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You did'nt but I think in 20 years people will still smoke

What are the alcohol laws that might be coming in in the UK?

A guy next to me at work has just bought 200 and gone through 20 already
 
Guest2 said:
You did'nt but I think in 20 years people will still smoke

What are the alcohol laws that might be coming in in the UK?

A guy next to me at work has just bought 200 and gone through 20 already
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Minimum unit price. It will be like tobacco it will slowly be ground in, that its bad, prices will go up, more laws will come in saying where you can do it etc. Public opinion will change over decades.


What has a guy buying 200 and smoking 20 have anything to do with anything.
 
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Glaucus said:
Minimum unit price. It will be like tobacco it will slowly be ground in, that its bad, prices will go up, more laws will come in saying where you. Can do it ec. Public opinion will change over decades.
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This is the only sensible and realistic way it'll change.
 
Sadly when I was younger and even as I got older unless you indulged in this type of thing then you could pretty much kiss goodbye your social life as it's pretty much all what people did every single weekend. Then people who do this start to see you as boring/social outcast and start to treat you as such which is ironic as the only thing they're pretty much intrested in is getting drunk.
 
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