Too cold to work?

DriftKing said:
Hello. This may sound silly but im a little confused. The heating at work has been broke for 2 weeks now and where I work they take forever to get things sorted. The lift has been broke since it was opened (it was a different company before) and this is still not fixed and we have to work deliveries and stock up and down stairs. Im pretty sure it is against health and safety to do this. The heating packed up two weeks ago and it is still not sorted. Also the male toilets have also broke and we have to use the female ones. These were broken over 6 months ago now and nothing has been done.

Im pretty sure I have the right to refuse to go in to work as it is way below 13oC in the warehouse and not much warmer on the shop floor. Im just a little annoyed that they take so long to get things sorted.

This job was a job I had when I was studying my btec national in IT but with the lack of IT jobs available im stilling working there. (also applying for other places). The thing is I don't get over 16 hours a week so im on job seekers allowance so if I lost my job it wouldnt even effect how much I earn't because my JSA would go up (not if I voluntarily left though).

What are your views? Yes it is a rubbish company (a big company) but a rubbish reputation where I live.
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Boo hoo, wear more layers.

What do you think the people do who work outside in this weather do?
 
OP - you are in the right in certain respects re temp and toilets. Take it up with your boss, or the companies HR department. However, stop harping on about how you are not earning more than you would on JSA. It is there as a backup for when you CAN'T find work. It is NOT and option you can take because working doesn't earn you more.

All the 'man up, I work outside' people - you have chosen a job that entails working in tough conditions, which is respectable. However, the OP has chosen a job where he should not be expected to face those conditions. If your mum worked at OPs place and was moaning about the same issues, would you be telling her to man up, or would you be agreeing that it was completely unreasonable?
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
Cleating cables on the roof of a tower block is hardly doing star jumps, not everyone digs holes for 9hrs.
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I think you're missing the point. People feel cold differently, and it affects people differently. Just because you're ok with it doesn't mean someone else is, or should have to be.
 
Linkex said:
If your mum worked at OPs place and was moaning about the same issues, would you be telling her to man up, or would you be agreeing that it was completely unreasonable?
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I get your point, but most of our mums wouldn't be lugging stuff up and down stairs to and from a warehouse. And if they did, they'd probably know to wear warm clothes in winter.
Mum's usually love nothing more than telling us to wrap up well after all. I know mine does ;)
 
Uncle Petey said:
I get your point, but most of our mums wouldn't be lugging stuff up and down stairs to and from a warehouse. And if they did, they'd probably know to wear warm clothes in winter.
Mum's usually love nothing more than telling us to wrap up well after all. I know mine does ;)
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Mine prefers telling me to shut up....usually for telling her to put a proper coat on :D
 
platypus said:
I think you're missing the point. People feel cold differently, and it affects people differently. Just because you're ok with it doesn't mean someone else is, or should have to be.
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No I don't think you understand, I don't like the cold and I can garantee the 13 degrees the opis ccomplaining about and wants to quit his job for is nothing like having to work outside without gloves on working with metal and small screws. The point I'm trying to make us he does not have it that bad and should just put more layers on, surely that is preferable to being on the dole.
 
Some of the responses in here are ludicrous.

1. OP receives additional JSA to help balance his wage, meaning he can easily leave the job and take the same money home each week, yet doesn't. That's commendable. I doubt any of you would do it.

2. As stated before, somebody working indoors has the HSE right to a comfortable temperature, they shouldn't have to spend their own money on thermals because the company they work for are terrible.

3. If you work outdoors, you work outdoors. I've done it and so have most people, the whole 'man up' thing I'm seeing is completely :rolleyes:.

Drift, as stated before get onto the HSE and complain anonymously, they'll get onto your employer who will have no choice but to fix the issues. Forcing employees to carry goods down the stairs due to faulty lifts is a sheer breach of Healthy & Safety. I'll admit that the HSE can be bloody daft at times but they've gotten this right.

Personally I wouldn't work for a company like that, talk to your JSA advisor and explain the situation and state you would like to work on a work experience program instead. Similar hours, better company, same money, stronger CV. Win-win. Simply quitting will most likely lose you your claim.
 
Uncle Petey said:
I get your point, but most of our mums wouldn't be lugging stuff up and down stairs to and from a warehouse. And if they did, they'd probably know to wear warm clothes in winter.
Mum's usually love nothing more than telling us to wrap up well after all. I know mine does ;)
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Why not? Going by OPs description, assuming the problems were resolved, my mum would be quite capable of pushing crap around on a trolley, into and out of a lift - I remember working at a supermarket years ago and there was a late middle age woman that worked alongside us. But, if the lifts had died, she wouldn't have been capable of moving it via the stairs. And thats my point - the job has gone from physically un-demanding enough that your mum could do it, to so physically demanding that she couldn't. I don't think OP is being unreasonable in complaining about that.

As for the heat, your mum must be the only woman in the world who doesn't complain when its cold. In my office, I've known women to go home at lunch work from home because the air con was on to high, despite wearing jumpers and jackets and crap.
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
No I don't think you understand, I don't like the cold and I can garantee the 13 degrees the opis ccomplaining about and wants to quit his job for is nothing like having to work outside without gloves on working with metal and small screws. The point I'm trying to make us he does not have it that bad and should just put more layers on, surely that is preferable to being on the dole.
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I think Omaeka's post summed up my feelings on the subject. Putting more layers on might be good enough for you, it isn't for others.
 
Its not a few stairs either. Too rub it in there is actually a lift there they just cant be bothered to sort it out. It was meant to be fixed 2 years ago, lol. Im on the dole even though I do work there because they can't give me over 16 hours. Kind of sick of repeating it all now....
 
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