Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Cristian said:
Pretty pathetic really, having a protein shake makes everybody look at you in the office like you're some sort of roid monster destroying his health yet running around for 40km in the heat is good for you and poses no risk at all. ohwait.

Same with the jacked scoop, she probably had a few more which obviously did no favors to a weak heart that went through hell in a silly physical challenge.
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Some of the guys I work with call my shakes "magic potions" and have the same attitude as you point out. Proper 'roid monster me!
 
The tabloid media like two health topics above all.

1) something widely thought of as healthy and beneficial, being potentially harmful or DEADLY!
2) someone who is super fit failing or dying due to their dedication to fitness (loose irony)

Why?

As a nation we seek affirmation of our own lives, we need to know we are doing 'it' right. We all know we don't eat right and we don't exercise enough (by we I mean average Jo public) and it niggles us. But when we see a story that is in support of what we are already do, we lap it up as a way of placating our guilt about not working out/eating right. This sells papers.
 
sunama said:
The word "clean" is the issue. What is "clean"?
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clean/healthy/natural/unrefined/minimally processed/no additives/artificial colourings etc.

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Ultra_Extreme said:
The tabloid media like two health topics above all.

1) something widely thought of as healthy and beneficial, being potentially harmful or DEADLY!
2) someone who is super fit failing or dying due to their dedication to fitness (loose irony)

Why?

As a nation we seek affirmation of our own lives, we need to know we are doing 'it' right. We all know we don't eat right and we don't exercise enough (by we I mean average Jo public) and it niggles us. But when we see a story that is in support of what we are already do, we lap it up as a way of placating our guilt about not working out/eating right. This sells papers.
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Like smokers who state their grandad lived to 100 and smoked 40 a day but also know a guy who was 20, never smoked and died from lung cancer?
 
Tabloids and media having a field day with jack3d

Articles full of maybe, possibly, could be then they end it saying how the stimulant was entirely at fault. Utter morons :(

As a point of reference far more have been proven to have died due to water intoxication during marathons.
 
Bit of advice guys, I'm currently 95KG and not that strong, I don't know what my BF% is but I'm guessing its between 30-35% and I'm hoping to lose some.

Been going gym for 4 months now, I've never taken supplements. I've cleaned up my diet, but I'm still human, and at university, so occasionally I'll eat unhealthily. Anyway I was wondering if supplements are really needed? In my eyes they are just for people who need more of some sort of nutrient and it's an easy way to top up. I eat a lot of white meat + veg and not too many carbs. Are supplements necessary? Cheers.
 
Work out your daily nutritional breakdown. If you don't want to change your diet, then supplement to fill up the gaps in your diet, otherwise, nope, no need.

I use mine to top up and as a meal replacement for breakfast.

kd
 
If she had taken caffeine before the race would that be blamed as the 'drug' that killed her?

Or maybe if she necked some lucozade?

I very much doubt, ONE scoop of jack3d done it but then I'm no doctor.
 
Mason- said:
Bit of advice guys, I'm currently 95KG and not that strong, I don't know what my BF% is but I'm guessing its between 30-35% and I'm hoping to lose some.

Been going gym for 4 months now, I've never taken supplements. I've cleaned up my diet, but I'm still human, and at university, so occasionally I'll eat unhealthily. Anyway I was wondering if supplements are really needed? In my eyes they are just for people who need more of some sort of nutrient and it's an easy way to top up. I eat a lot of white meat + veg and not too many carbs. Are supplements necessary? Cheers.
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No. Train hard and eat well. :)
 
The_One said:
love all the doctors coming out the woodwork on ocuk thinking they know better than the toxological experts :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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The experts who were so sure all they could say is "possibly" and "it might have" it's just easier for them to demonise the banned supplement than say it was caused by an already weakened heart being pushed beyond it's limits through a combination of exertion, heat and the extra pressure from the DMAA.
 
The_One said:
of course doctor tom
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If you'd read either of the posts I'd made about it you'd see I actually agree with them, DMAA almost certainly did play a role in her heart failing.
What I'm trying to say is it wasn't the only factor which is the message they seem to be giving to the public.
 
The_One said:
of course doctor tom
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Would you kindly **** off if you're only going to troll.

If you do feel like contributing, how about not being a troll and adding some value to the conversation?

Tom's point was perfectly valid:

The experts who were so sure all they could say is "possibly" and "it might have" it's just easier for them to demonise the banned supplement than say it was caused by an already weakened heart being pushed beyond it's limits through a combination of exertion, heat and the extra pressure from the DMAA.
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It's an entirely feasible point - the doctors don't know categorically. Sure, some of us (possibly most of us) aren't doctors, but you don't know what some of us have/or are studying.

Never assume young man. It'll do you well in the world.
 
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