She won't be better off on the dole. She would probably get most of her council tax paid for her by the government anyway if she applied.
Council tax evasion.
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She won't be better off on the dole. She would probably get most of her council tax paid for her by the government anyway if she applied.
Go to a citizens advice bureau and get them to help you apply. Something is going wrong in your application.
or she isn't working full time (30 hrs).
https://www.gov.uk/working-tax-credit/eligibility
or she isn't working full time (30 hrs).
https://www.gov.uk/working-tax-credit/eligibility
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That would be really stupid. You pay council tax above all else if money is tight. Utility companies and banks can be negotiated with but the council will just **** you.
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I pay £1100 a year for council tax and that is including single discount. That is going up. I looked in to the council budget and they don't realy fund anything that I use. Out of all the taxes council tax annoys me the most. The fact that it is calculated based on your house makes it a property tax. If i remember correctly the property taxes is what caused the peasant revolt in 1381 so this is not a new problem...
The central government should spend less money and give more to the local councils and then we can pay less tax. Less government spending = less taxes. More government spending = more taxes and more debt. Calling for more government spending is essentially calling for more taxation and debt.
The central government should spend less money and give more to the local councils and then we can pay less tax. Less government spending = less taxes. More government spending = more taxes and more debt. Calling for more government spending is essentially calling for more taxation and debt.
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I read 1/3 of council tax is needed just to fund the council pensions.
I wouldn't be surprised if another 1/3 is wasted on non-jobs / diversity officers and only 1/10 actually pays for useful things like roads/rubbish/recycling/libraries.
I wouldn't be surprised if another 1/3 is wasted on non-jobs / diversity officers and only 1/10 actually pays for useful things like roads/rubbish/recycling/libraries.
How many other work places is this the same/similer though? When I go and buy my big-mac, how much of that goes towards a pension scheme?
It's also a manipulative way of stating things. The council receives money from central government. Why is it that only our council tax goes towards the pension.
Your Bigmac analogy is perfect. I could say 100% of it went towards the pension of the employee that served you.
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none i don't think mcdonalds have a pension scheme. I doubt they even have a employer contributor pension scheme. Like my employer says if i put in £100-150 out of my salary they will match it, up to £100.
Then the over paid state employees just say, that is your problem, you should join a union and force your employer to pay for a high pension. The difference is that private sector employer can go out of business while the state can not.
Theres nothing manipulative about it. If the whole of the councils pension scheme came from central government it would still need paying. It would just be income tax or VAT that goes up, not council tax. If there was no council tax at all and it was central government that paid for all our services, it would still need paying for.
1% or 100% doesn't matter though. The price is the price.
Great way to argue, pick on the minor detail. Now I know full well my company has a pension scheme. So swap big mac for delivery.
Also, very soon, companies HAVE to provide a pension scheme of some sort. So in October (I think?) come back and change it back to big mac.
As you are, I assume, a sane person, the taxes are theft fallacy is something you should have disregarded in 6th form.
We are governed by democratic consent, the people we have collectively voted to govern us do so by providing services that we agree to fund through taxes.
By deciding to not pay towards the greater good you decide to accept what ever punishments the democratically elected government decide to impose.
If we lived in a dictatorship, you would have the makings of a point.
I don't really like council tax I'd prefer to pay more income tax. It's a tax on having your own home, which is quite frankly expensive enough and pretty unfair being that it's not only home owners who benefit from council services.
I woudn't advise anyone to try not paying though.
I'm not sure I agree but maybe I'm insane? Being mob ruled doesn't mean I have any ability to actually enact my opinions, it just means the opinions of the majority are my burden to bear whether or not I agree with them. Now I agree that people who disagree with taxes in general are probably both incredibly selfish and ignorant, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise how the system works.
Personally I think we should take it onboard and reach a common ground where we ensure we aren't ******* other peoples money away. It fits right into the core of my beliefs where we should not be a nanny state because taking money from someone so you can fund your desires to tell them it's immoral to watch porn or to smoke weed is pretty outrageous in my opinion.
On a side note, I think it should be possible to buy a bit of land and live off it with hardwork alone without the Government comming and demanding money from you. I'm not sure I'd ever do it myself, but a property tax pretty much forces you to have income in order to keep what you've already earned. It sucks imo.
I woudn't advise anyone to try not paying though.
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I'm not sure I agree but maybe I'm insane? Being mob ruled doesn't mean I have any ability to actually enact my opinions, it just means the opinions of the majority are my burden to bear whether or not I agree with them. Now I agree that people who disagree with taxes in general are probably both incredibly selfish and ignorant, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise how the system works.
Personally I think we should take it onboard and reach a common ground where we ensure we aren't ******* other peoples money away. It fits right into the core of my beliefs where we should not be a nanny state because taking money from someone so you can fund your desires to tell them it's immoral to watch porn or to smoke weed is pretty outrageous in my opinion.
On a side note, I think it should be possible to buy a bit of land and live off it with hardwork alone without the Government comming and demanding money from you. I'm not sure I'd ever do it myself, but a property tax pretty much forces you to have income in order to keep what you've already earned. It sucks imo.
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It replaced rates, you've always had to pay it.
The only reason its a problem now is that under labour it went up by a factor of ten times or so in some cases while they were in power, so rather than being a cheeky 250 a year extra, it turned into a not inconsiderable wallet busting £1000+ a year to fund services we didn't need.
Except a freeman on the land wouldn't vote! The actual act of voting is a service provided by the council, who they don't have a contract with.
Government by democracy.
Its not a choice they have, by choosing to live here they are under the governance of the democratically elected government, the only in or out option they have is live here and accept it or move abroad.
As I said above, its 6th form reasoning that supposedly educated people shouldn't be wasting their time with.
Just because it's always there doesn't mean I have to agree with it. It'd rather see it completely abolished. Then again, I'm for a more simpler tax system in general, but I gather people would balk if the their tax burdern was an easy to discover % of income.
Of course in reality since all land was effectly monopolised long before any of us were born, theres really very few places to move to where such a system isn't in place and anywhere else would likely be fairly dangerous. Still I don't think it's an argument about no tax, just fairer tax.
I was being sarcastic and you ruined it? RUINED!
The whole Freeman on the land movement is laughable at best.
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Public sector waste and taking the **** is at an all time high. Government workers get more money and work less than ever before. You heard it here first.
Lets see some investigations in to these public sector employees, lets see if they earn their salaries and their pensions.
Lets see some investigations in to these public sector employees, lets see if they earn their salaries and their pensions.