Implying the two issues--and I'm not even going to bother going into just how ignorant your choice of words happen to be--are mutually exclusive and one must pick one issue over the other. Please keep that sensationalist attitude of yours in check. It's like reading the Daily Mail comment section whenever you post.
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Implying the two issues--and I'm not even going to bother going into just how ignorant your choice of words happen to be--are mutually exclusive and one must pick one issue over the other. Please keep that sensationalist attitude of yours in check. It's like reading the Daily Mail comment section whenever you post.
As someone who has diagnosed ADHD and who is married to one of the leading practitioners of Tier 4 services for ADHD I call BS. ADHD necessitates support in many cases and that support is not given. It is certainly not given to this extent. So stop pulling the Daily Mail line or falling for someone who is spinning you a yarn. Take your righteous indignation elsewhere and if you are so unfortunate to one day need assistance that somehow extends beyond what you've paid on tax we'll do you the courtesy of not being critical.
most of OCUK has well and truly fallen for the tory propaganda of "blame benefit claimants for the economy"
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This.
it's the ones in the middle that constantly get screwed over
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westerners and their dippy diseases never fail to amuse me. Must be years of eating horse meat lol
No, but they do acknowledge the nature of our public spending crisis and the poor structure of our current benefits system.
The need to address excessive benefit spending and ensuring that we direct the welfare budget at the right people is a result of the economic problems and the lack of maneuverability caused by a government that followed deficit spending policies in a boom.
Would you prefer an approach where the benefit bill is cut by simply reducing payments across the board, rather than a better assesent of needs?
Totally Dolph let's let Atos run everything! They do such a good job with their current remit
So many people get caught up in this notion the media portray of people on benefits living it up at the taxpayers expense.
Yes there are a few who abuse the system and end up with more than they probably should but this is not the majority and come April they are introducing a benefit cap which will stop this kind of thing. Very few people are actually going to be effected by this cap as very few actually get these large amounts of benefits.
I work in benefits and life on benefits is not a swanky stroll in the park, they do not have extravagent holidays and expensive electrical goods (unless they have hired it from something like bright house which is raping them in interest etc getting them further into debt).
A single person under 35 the maximum they can get from JSA, HB and CTB (all they are entitled to unless disabled) is currently £148.50 per week in my area. They only receive this much if they are renting a place themselves, they could only get £71 per week if living at home.
Do you think you could rent a place and pay all your bills, council tax, gas, electricity, water etc on £148.50 per week and have a nice lifestyle with holidays? Not at all.
Obviously this changes with children, disabilities etc and thats where you can get claimants receiving quite a bit of money. But the benefit cap i mentioned earlier stops this from ever becoming an unreasonable amount.
People need to stop buying into the whole Daily Mail style hate mongering and word of mouth b******t being spread around like "I'm going to get £280 per month for my ADHD kid!".
Yes there are a few who abuse the system and end up with more than they probably should but this is not the majority and come April they are introducing a benefit cap which will stop this kind of thing. Very few people are actually going to be effected by this cap as very few actually get these large amounts of benefits.
I work in benefits and life on benefits is not a swanky stroll in the park, they do not have extravagent holidays and expensive electrical goods (unless they have hired it from something like bright house which is raping them in interest etc getting them further into debt).
A single person under 35 the maximum they can get from JSA, HB and CTB (all they are entitled to unless disabled) is currently £148.50 per week in my area. They only receive this much if they are renting a place themselves, they could only get £71 per week if living at home.
Do you think you could rent a place and pay all your bills, council tax, gas, electricity, water etc on £148.50 per week and have a nice lifestyle with holidays? Not at all.
Obviously this changes with children, disabilities etc and thats where you can get claimants receiving quite a bit of money. But the benefit cap i mentioned earlier stops this from ever becoming an unreasonable amount.
People need to stop buying into the whole Daily Mail style hate mongering and word of mouth b******t being spread around like "I'm going to get £280 per month for my ADHD kid!".
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Totally Dolph let's let Atos run everything! They do such a good job with their current remit
Where did I say or imply I supported Atos? At the very least, they haven't got their system right and their targets are almost certainly wrong.
however, the idea of some sort of independent verification of need is a good one, as is the idea of regular reassessment if you actually want to use benefits as something other than a place to hide and ignore people at the taxpayer's expense.
What do you support then other than some unproven ideological viewpoint that has proven again and again to be unsubstantiated in reality. If we were to go for theoretical constructs that sound all well and good we'd all have a hammer and sickle on our flags but that didn't work in practice either.
And you should well know that:
a) Any concerns about the child from the GP would have meant the GP referred to a paeds. ie "Please could you see this active lad. His parents and school express concern regarding his behaviour and social interactions"
b) Concerns found by paeds would have been referred to CAMHS ie "Please could you see this lad. On examination and from a history he exhibits several traits that would warrant a more detailed examinination".
c) Only then would a diagnosis of ADHD be given after a battery of tests most likely now including imaging - "thank you for referring me this lad. After detailed examination of the history and from a clinical assessment it would appear a diagnosis of ADHD would be warranted. However, before making such a move I would like to arrange imaging for the brain to determine if any known markers can be found to substantiate a diagnosis."
How would a GP diagnose ADHD when any radiologist worth their salt would challenge the GP on why he was asking for imaging to investigate something that was out of their remit and area of expertise. Without the imaging and without referral what the hell would a CAMHS team say. Again it's BS.
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If you get money for ADHD I should get a tone for having Asperger's Syndrome ? Oh on what I have some god damn personally resposanbilty and have reasonable job to pay my way
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You could claim DLA for Aspergers - normally attracts care lower rate but severe cases can attract medium rate. Higher rate is applicable to children with onerous care requirements.
The DLA award would help you pay for transport to and from and counselling sessions, medical appointments etc that are required to help you manage your condition. I assume your are in active care for your condition?
Have a read:-
http://www.autism.org.uk/living-wit...mmunity-care/disability-living-allowance.aspx
If you feel like you can manage your condition without further financial assiatcne then great. If however extra financial assistance would help you manage your condition better then that's what DLA is there for. Being awarded DLA also attracts other non-finacial benefits - such as access to support networks, education, training etc.
But well done for the "I don't claim so no one else should" mentality. Bravo sir, bravo. Do you know what empathy is?
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Tangent: Far as I'm aware my brother-in-law has ADHD, and my wife has AHD. Both were MASSIVELY helped by doing marshall arts. Gave them exercise and focus.
I'm stunned at £280 a month (assume £70 a week), because a child has ADHD though, surely that cannot be a correct figure. I wouldn't even believe you'd get paid for ADHD as a disability.
I'm stunned at £280 a month (assume £70 a week), because a child has ADHD though, surely that cannot be a correct figure. I wouldn't even believe you'd get paid for ADHD as a disability.
maybe not so - maybe its just the economy is hurting and then you are able to see other things that are not working easier since there is a general lack of money.
What do we see? public sector jobs drying up - 'free' money drying up and free money hurting more people because someone has to work to pay for it. We see tax evaders hurting the economy (google amazon etc ...)
its all the little things that add up - then you combine that with rising costs of food, electricity, heat, common goods that everyone needs ...
and maybe those little nuances such as people living off benefits whom dont deserve it start to get on your nerves more.
... I personally find the UK handouts a joke
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It depends on the severity - normally it's just lower rate 9care) component @ £20. If they are getting a higher rate then there will be other factors - autism etc.
Well, ADHD is a disability and the benefit is a Disability living Allowance - what's not to understand?
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