http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/12/anti-welfare-rhetoric-families
I expect more from people, alas I am continually disappointed by society.
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/12/anti-welfare-rhetoric-families
I expect more from people, alas I am continually disappointed by society.
The issue with such large tax avoidance is that it shouldn't be possible, not that those doing it are breaking the law.
It is a drain, legal or not.
Matey who write that should interview people on here. I think his head would explode with all the hypocrisy thrown around.
Its a drain but its also a boon, company's are able to employ extra people as they have more money so it saves on dole and the is tax from the things those people buy, good for the economy. Avoidance is merely reducing the amount of tax you pay using legal means, everybody does it given the chance, in essence buying loads of duty free you don't want/need on your way back into the UK is tax avoidance.
I agree, OP you should be ashamed of yourself.
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I agree, OP should be castrated.
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Should be made to live on benefits for a year with al that entails - having to attend a job center every week, send off applications for jobs that you never get any replies to, attend interviews with condescending "descision makers", go though a degrading ATOS "assesment" whereupon you read their report and recognise nothing they claim you said etc etc.
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It's even more annoying when one of the above coincides with a Jeremy Kyle Lie Detector Special.
we want to see it all dealt with, just because their maybe bigger problems doesn't mean we should ignore it
Honestly, I know of somebody who's on DLA because of ADHD. After talking to him a few times he's implicitly stated that it's too easy to get DLA, because of ADHD, and that he "lied about it" for the most part to get money from the government. He was eventually reported for benefit fraud, by one of his family members if I remember correctly... the best part is, after being assessed he was still allowed to continue receiving DLA.
Which either leads me to believe he's either lying about lying. Or he's lying to the DWP. Either way, he's a bit of a tool for doing it. And he doesn't help this entire situation at all, there are people who have ADHD and it seriously affects their lifestyles... What also doesn't help sufferers of ADHD, is the fact that it's one of the most commonly misdiagnosed disorders on the planet. And we'd be naive to think there are no people out there looking to abuse the system to get an easy life.
But anyway... a little more education on the effects of ADHD are required it seems, as people are quick to dismiss an over-active child, or a dismissive one (who's not being challenged enough, let's say) as having AD(H)D. And some people don't believe it exists at all and are willing to bet it's just an excuse for a child to be naughty... It's completely black and white for some people, it's mind boggling.
I realise that may have gone off on a tangent, concerning the nature of the original post... but meh, had a little bit to say on the subject it seems!
Which either leads me to believe he's either lying about lying. Or he's lying to the DWP. Either way, he's a bit of a tool for doing it. And he doesn't help this entire situation at all, there are people who have ADHD and it seriously affects their lifestyles... What also doesn't help sufferers of ADHD, is the fact that it's one of the most commonly misdiagnosed disorders on the planet. And we'd be naive to think there are no people out there looking to abuse the system to get an easy life.
But anyway... a little more education on the effects of ADHD are required it seems, as people are quick to dismiss an over-active child, or a dismissive one (who's not being challenged enough, let's say) as having AD(H)D. And some people don't believe it exists at all and are willing to bet it's just an excuse for a child to be naughty... It's completely black and white for some people, it's mind boggling.
I realise that may have gone off on a tangent, concerning the nature of the original post... but meh, had a little bit to say on the subject it seems!
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One question - how do you know he is getting a DLA award for ADHD?
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amigafan2003 said:
Have you any info to backup that last claim? I am very interested in reading it. Specifically the 40% of adhd kids being actually autistic.
Secondly, you first input, extra costs may ensue, but no one pays me when I need to go to hospital, or to a clinic. I understand autism as a completely different thing to adhd, the kids in my experience with a diagnosis of autism are completely different from those I have encountered with adhd, potential for overlap is there, but with adhd, misdiagnosis of illness, when lack of parenting would be a more suitale diagnosis is often the case. This isn't the case with autism.
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His first sentence stated the guy said he was getting it for adhd, and lied to get it...
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What annoys me most about the whole benefit system is free nursery placements for those on benefit. It's supposedly so they can go look for work but really, how many actually do?
Would it not be more sensible to give free nursery placements to those who are already in work and paying their taxes? It would certainly alleviate a large financial burden on new parents who are already forking out quite a bit on their new arrival.
Would it not be more sensible to give free nursery placements to those who are already in work and paying their taxes? It would certainly alleviate a large financial burden on new parents who are already forking out quite a bit on their new arrival.
Not sure if you are on about something in Scotland but in England there is no such thing.
There are 15 free hours per week for everyone's children aged 3+ and currently a new scheme being rolled out for 15 hrs per week for underprivileged 2 yr olds, and this is being slowly expanded to cover everyone too.
That is as maybe, but look at how often people complain and use the issue to decide their vote on with the bigger problems vs the small problems, its completely inverted.
People are just so easily brainwashed against each other down on the lower rungs that the ones at the top can get away with anything whilst laughing.
So now we are placing fact and getting out raged because "a guy said it"
My mates mate said he got £1000 a month because he had a splinter in his toe and couldn't work, joke of it was, he didn't!
Well... he tells people quite openly about it (see: brags about it). I dunno if you can get more conclusive than that... Either way, I don't have access to his bank statements so I can't obviously confirm 100% that he's receiving DLA. But like I said, I've no reason to doubt him about whether he's on DLA or not. After all, whenever I talk to him he's always chatting about his next "pay day" and how whenever he "gets a job" he's always got to make sure the employer knows he's got ADHD so they treat him in the correct manner. Has his own disability employment advisor or something to that effect... He's not a very clever man, and I sincerely doubt inventing all these characters to back his own story up of having DLA would seem fantastically far-fetched by his standards.
I think you misinterpreted my post. I wasn't outraged by any stretch of the imagination. As the first reply to the OP so aptly put it, carry on regardless... I don't honestly care that he may, or may not be, lying. What I was saying is that it'd be naive of us in either case to suggest that the system, especially concerning mental illnesses, isn't being abused and it's unfortunate there isn't a clear cut way of just "dealing with it". But please do not mistake that as me saying "all cases are fake and gay, ADHD isn't real..." it's obviously very real.
And to be fair, if your entire issue is with the fact that I posted a personal story relating to the issue... Why post at all? Let me just get out that proof and a signed confession from the aforementioned benefit fraudster to satisfy your unrelenting thirst for empirical proof on the subject. Or just let it lie, and realise... it's a subjective experience which I had with somebody who I believe is cheating the system. I would guarantee a fair few people would have a story like that, for you to dismiss all of them so carelessly would... well, be naive.
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