Benefit Cheats (ADHD)

[ferret141]

Why do many immigrants come to the UK, including illegal immigrants who can face much danger and potential death in trying to do so?
Why travel all that way, (often through many different countries) including some "affluent" nations in Europe with the goal of getting to the UK? Does anyone have figures on those claiming asylum or choosing to emmigrate to other European nations?

This isn't a loaded question. I'm genuinely interested into hearing some facts/theories on this.

In the past it was the availability of jobs. For some it was also about this Great Britain they heard about growing up. Finally and I think this is the primary reason, the strength of the Pound. What little they earn here for some immigrants can mean that they can invest and retire comfortably in their own countries later. Especially if they had nothing going for them in their own countries. Most likely due to their families being in poverty and little access to education.

 

[hurfdurf]

it's the ones in the middle that constantly get screwed over

For example?

 

[Blackjack Davy]

As you get older, you learn to forget these injustices and try to simply focus on your own life. If you don't, you just become angrier and grumpier until you realise that you actually like The Daily Mail.

Damn, you just described my life.

 

[ubersonic]

Well, ADHD is a disability and the benefit is a Disability living Allowance - what's not to understand?

I know this thread has been dormant for 2 weeks now, but seriously dude?

It is not a disability its a condition and even then it doesn't incur any cost in the life of anybody with it, the may be the occasional extra bill for the parents from something/someone the child has damaged but its not like any special treatment is needed or anything lmao, I can't believe anybody actually buys into this ^^

(References: I have ADHD-C, the worst type, oh and I also have a real disability so know the difference ).

 

[asim18]

If it's any comfort the total % of benefits lost to fraud is around a percent.

One percent? That's a huge amount!

 

[Diagro]

ADHD is not a disability.

I have it... And I am not disabled

 

[Rotty]

ADHD is not a disability.

I have it... And I am not disabled

wish there were more like you

 

[Neil79]

wish there were more like you

There are different levels of ADHD just as there are different levels of Autism!

 

[ubersonic]

There are different levels of ADHD just as there are different levels of Autism!

The are three, hyperactivity only (ADHD-H), inattentive only (ADHD-I, formerly called ADD) and both combined (ADHD-C). Some people may have it slightly worse and some less but that's the same with any condition, luckily its not as bad now as it was in the 80's/90's.

 

[Xordium]

The are three, hyperactivity only (ADHD-H), inattentive only (ADHD-I, formerly called ADD) and both combined (ADHD-C). Some people may have it slightly worse and some less but that's the same with any condition, luckily its not as bad now as it was in the 80's/90's.

Those are (now outdated) definitions for diagnosis for conditions not disabilities themselves as you indicated earlier. But then neither is anything diagnosed as a disability. Everything is diagnosed as a condition and each condition has consequences which may lead to aspects causing disability. So you are presenting this as a special case whereas it is not. Just because you cope does not mean others face challenges so it rather wrong to suggest they don't because disability because all the empirical research demonstrates they often do.

FYI the definitions you gave there are now incorrect and you may want to update yourself on your condition so you understand how it may change your treatment and diagnosis

 

[Diagro]

There are different levels of ADHD just as there are different levels of Autism!

Yes there are.

Unfortunately ADHD is misdiagnosed today.. Many children are diagnosed with ADHD when intact they are just a little roudy....

I was diagnosed in the 90's and I responded to the medication in a way that proved I did indeed have ADHD. Many children today are just hyper due to the sugar intake, and some are plain naughty.

I will always say and I truly feel that any form of ADD or ADHD are not a disablility, they do make a person special though, most children with it are said to be higher achievers later in life and will work harder.

Anyone who thinks they are disabled due to having ADHD I feel are failed by the system.

 

[Xordium]

Anyone who thinks they are disabled due to having ADHD I feel are failed by the system.

Meaning you are disabled merely means you require support above the norm and do not perform at the norm in an area. If that then leads to a lack of coherence with society and life then yes if it was obtainable the system has indeed failed. If however we are merely acknowledging that someone requires consideration and help then it has hardly failed it has succeeded in providing people with fair opportunities. I swear sometimes the biggest hurdles and prejudice in such disorders comes from the coping fringe sufferers over and above what society inflicts.

 

[Shayper]

westerners and their dippy diseases never fail to amuse me. Must be years of eating horse meat lol

As someone who is autistic, your post is highly offensive. "Dippy disease", you try living with it.

 

[MrMoonX]

Theres a fine line between disability and those that think they are autistic/ADHD and self diagnose on the internet

 

[Shayper]

Theres a fine line between disability and those that think they are autistic/ADHD and self diagnose on the internet

I agree. I wouldn't consider myself disabled, but I have been statemented with Aspergers syndrome. The self diagnosed people seem to be just a bit weird, it's not something I would wish on anyone so why rush to wish it on yourself?

 

[Locky]

I'm going through getting my son diagnosed with a disorder, not to receive any money, I really couldn't care less about that, but I want him to be treated differently at school.

hes always being singled out by the teachers as they have no idea how to deal with him.

But he is much much different from my other children, on the plus side, hes much more clever than the others - but at a cost.

 

[Shayper]

I'm going through getting my son diagnosed with a disorder, not to receive any money, I really couldn't care less about that, but I want him to be treated differently at school.

hes always being singled out by the teachers as they have no idea how to deal with him.

But he is much much different from my other children, on the plus side, hes much more clever than the others - but at a cost.

I really sympathise with you both. I once was told I was lying by a teacher when I was passing the information on my statement to them, and it really was difficult in certain classes because they just don't know how to deal with certain children. High intelligence at a cost is pretty regular too, I had zero social skills, was incredibly arrogant and couldn't understand other people and their points of view at all. It's hard to work through that, but I can send you some pointers and experience over trust if you want?

 

[hurfdurf]

There are an absolute ton of Aspies and ADHD'ers posting on OcUK, you can normally tell from their posts, its difficult to deal with because you'll be half way through a discussion with someone and then realise and have to modify the way you post so you can communicate more effectively.

 

[Xordium]

I'm going through getting my son diagnosed with a disorder, not to receive any money, I really couldn't care less about that, but I want him to be treated differently at school.

hes always being singled out by the teachers as they have no idea how to deal with him.

But he is much much different from my other children, on the plus side, hes much more clever than the others - but at a cost.

It is important to get the diagnosis and well done for driving it to those lengths. I appreciate to some parents it is a worrying "label" but it need not be and should not be these days. Unfortunately for many children the signs are not overt in presentation and the parents do not really understand and such children slip through the system. Unless it is blatantly obvious then it tends to not get noticed and the failures start right at the beginning of life and the signs are never picked up. Every history has similar themes: failure to thrive, poor feeding, excessive crying or total lack of crying from the first month through to patterns later in life. I wish people would pick up on those initial problems and watch a bit more carefully.

 

[Xordium]

There are an absolute ton of Aspies and ADHD'ers posting on OcUK

That should be hardly shocking. A reasonable way to communicate without having the problems of having to deal with non-verbal clues.