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As I understand it, you cannot be using the newest nvidia driver (or maybe last few releases) because it causes problems. I also heard you are only getting about a 30% boost with sli as well (least its better than the lack of crossfire support since 8.0 :p)
 
Looking at the patch notes they have done nothing to correct the fundamental problem - NOOB AMMO.

"Gold" ammo has NO PLACE in the game. At least when it was gold you only saw it in clan wars, but now it can be bought for silver every heavy tank is just rendered worhtless. That E100 I grinded so as to lead the attack is a waste when a T8 TD can pen frontally :-(

Al they need to do is remove noob ammo and I will come back, but this is just stupid. T10 TDs that can one shot T10 tanks with HESH ammo - just ridiculous.

When will they realise that they will make more money in the long run by keeping players rather than fleecing noobs.
 
It just makes me sad to see a game I spent 18 months playing for about 10 hours a week just get trashed by a money grabbing effort.

Just played my first game for about 3 months and sure enough hull down my Type 59 Turret got penned three times by a flipping M26 pershing with a gun that only has 180pen in 'balanced mode' and 268pen in 'must sell premium accounts mode'. I'm not talking cuppola or machine gun hatch, I'm talking where the red stars are :-(

Why did I bother learning weak spots, why did I bother learning that my Type has 200mm armour on a lovely sloped turret when I could have just bought 'noob' ammo and clicked on auto targeting....

I knwo I sound liek a broken record but I am really sad and upset about this....
 
It just makes me sad to see a game I spent 18 months playing for about 10 hours a week just get trashed by a money grabbing effort.

Just played my first game for about 3 months and sure enough hull down my Type 59 Turret got penned three times by a flipping M26 pershing with a gun that only has 180pen in 'balanced mode' and 268pen in 'must sell premium accounts mode'. I'm not talking cuppola or machine gun hatch, I'm talking where the red stars are :-(

Why did I bother learning weak spots, why did I bother learning that my Type has 200mm armour on a lovely sloped turret when I could have just bought 'noob' ammo and clicked on auto targeting....

Although I agree that Premium ammo should be removed, I disagree with other things you say.

To start with, you should always treat the sides of your turret (where the stars are) as penetrable anyway. The Pershing has a pretty good gun and it is perfectly possible that he did so with standard AP rounds.

Also you are massively exaggerating how good premium ammo is. Yes it is more likely to penetrate, but it can still bounce and you generally cannot get away with using auto-aim with it as it will most likely still aim at a well armoured part of your target and still bounce.

Fundamentally I agree that premium ammunition should be removed, but if it has to be in the game then having it purchasable by silver means it is as accessible by all players, not just the credit card bunch. This is much fairer in random battles and I have personally only seen it rise by a small amount since it was introduced in 8.1.
 
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Hi guys, just seen this thread, I have been playing for about 5 months now and was getting quite good at it, but for now the MM is rigged, it feels like WG want to control the outcome of every match by team stacking.

I am not the only one who has noticed it and the rumours are now rife, to the extent that most of my clan have now quit.

I still play it even though it does get depressing seeing every game win or lose 15-2 or 15-3.

I will keep an eye open for you guys when in game.
 
The game seems totally unbalanced atm, mm isn't great, premium ammo negates armour which is a big consideration, tanks being 'rebalanced' based on their success with premium ammo. Although its availble to all, some tanks benefit way more from premium ammo than others. The game is so full of people that are totally clueless, and the number of bots seems to be on the rise.

Took my jumbo out for a spin today, and gave up after 3 straight losses. Last match got me 97xp and I was highest in the team lol (1>15 defeat).

Seems the only tanks worth playing are the OP Derp'ers, or the tanks without armour that arn't impacted by premium ammo.
 
Although I agree that Premium ammo should be removed, I disagree with other things you say.

To start with, you should always treat the sides of your turret (where the stars are) as penetrable anyway. The Pershing has a pretty good gun and it is perfectly possible that he did so with standard AP rounds.

Also you are massively exaggerating how good premium ammo is. Yes it is more likely to penetrate, but it can still bounce and you generally cannot get away with using auto-aim with it as it will most likely still aim at a well armoured part of your target and still bounce.

Fundamentally I agree that premium ammunition should be removed, but if it has to be in the game then having it purchasable by silver means it is as accessible by all players, not just the credit card bunch. This is much fairer in random battles and I have personally only seen it rise by a small amount since it was introduced in 8.1.

I think premium ammo should be removed, or at the very least it should be doing 1/2 damage so you sacrifice dpm for penetration.

Premium ammo effectiveness varies from tank to tank. Lets take the German 88mm L71 @ Tier 8. Penetration is 203 vs 237 (AP VS APCR). That's quite a small difference in penetration (16.75%) and that's one tank i honestly never bother carrying premium ammo in, its barely making a difference and the gun is already very accurate anyway, so weak spots are not a problem.

Now we take the Type T-34. 112 vs 189 penetration (68.75%). That is a massive difference. 112 pen against a lot of t6 stuff would be a bit iffy, but with premium ammo you can frontally pen most t8 heavies and even some t9 heavies. That is way too over powered.

Lets move onto the Object 268. 303 / 450 penetration (48.51%). So not as big a jump here, however 450mm of pen is ridiculous. I've seen videos from a thread on the wot forums of a 268 auto aiming various tanks to death using premium ammo. Most tanks are not like this but its still silly.

Regarding premium ammo bouncing. Prime example of this is the Maus.

In the Beta, the only tanks that could pen you was T30, IS7/IS4, ISU/704 & JT. Things like the T34 and German 128mm guns could, but it wasn't easy to do that. Felt like the Maus was a beast (albeit with the buggy damage to the mudflaps)

These days, there is way too many Tier 10 tanks. Before you would get 2 - 4 t10 per game where as these days its often 5+ and the rest with t9. All with uber high pen guns / premium ammo. Sure you can angle the Maus and it will bounce a lot, but there is a lot of stuff that will pen you with no problem. No sloped armor on the side is a real problem. You are sacrificing everything for your armor, speed, agility, camo. The Maus has gone from one of the best t10 tanks (imo) to one of the worst. You now get penned far more than before (I think win ratio on EU server for Maus dropped 2-3% when premium ammo was purchasable with credits).

They finally buffed the front of the turret to its historical value which stopped tanks auto penning the cheeks. But its still at a major disadvantage. I think the gun is decent, but really feel it needs either a pen buff or a rate of fire buff.

I really wish they would remove gold ammo and remove all the silly uber pen guns. I also think Tier 10 TD's & Mediums shouldnt have been introduced.
 
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The problem is that WG openly admit that some of the tanks are balanced on prem ammo, the T69 being one of them and currently my favourite tank. With the normal ammo its ok but against tier 8 and 9 heavies the normal ammo bounces even on the weak spots, so I have no choice but to load up the prem, then it's a beast. A few other tanks need the prem to perform well, as long as WG keep it like this then prem is here to stay, although I wish they would make it gold to buy only again.
 
It's obvious. WG want premium ammo to become the norm. That way people need premium accounts or premium tanks to afford it. That means people spending money.

But by doing that they throw away heavy armour, weak spot knowledge and a large element of skill.

All of which devalue the game in my mind.

Put another way. Can anyone think of a single argument FOR the inclusion of premium ammo?
 
thats why they can afford to spend thousands of pounds sponsoring a hunt for 124 WWII Spitfire's in Burma on hearsay and rumours only to turn out they didnt exist where they were digging. Someone saw them coming a mile off!
 
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