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linktoinsanity said:
One, but not from our point of view as it makes them money.
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This is what it boils down to. In its current form, it is only there to make money. If I'm honest, since I stopped playing my T10 heavies, people using gold doesn't bother me as much as it did. Yes, it's annoying getting penned through the turret of my T29/T32 by other T7/T8 tanks - but even with gold that's not guarenteed.

Just embrace it, get a Pz4, get a Hetzer, get a KV2 - and just stroll around the map one shoting stuff, it's great fun! Alternatively, just play mediums where gold ammo is irrelevant anyway.

The above being said, I still think it should be removed, however, that's not going to happen. I think it's more likely they will introduce gold armour.....now that would annoy me!
 
Nuttah said:
The above being said, I still think it should be removed, however, that's not going to happen. I think it's more likely they will introduce gold armour.....now that would annoy me!
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Genius - gold armour ! They will so certainly do this - have to buy gold ammo to defeat gold armour.

Why they cant make money by making players love the game I simply don't know.

I played one game in my Type last night and was just shocked by the still lower standard of some players. You could spot the thinkers a mile away. In a no-arty battle, one T30 just sat in the open on a crest being shot at - all he needed to do was go hull down and he could have dominated from up there.
 
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Puppetmaster said:
I dont understand why premium ammo exists or has ever existed in clan wars. If anything, that is a time where skill should count for everything.
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Even with both sides shooting premium ammo, skill is still everything. 9 times out of 10 you lose because of the tactics employed (or lack of them!)

You have to remember, certainly with my current clan - they have vast amounts of gold sat in a treasury for occupying land for many days - premium ammo costs the players nothing as they hand out enough gold to cover the game for each of the 15 players just before the CW match starts, even to the point of premium consumables as well.

By the time the next set of CW games come around 24 hours later, the clan has probably earned that back by occupying several provinces.
 
linktoinsanity said:
Also you are massively exaggerating how good premium ammo is. Yes it is more likely to penetrate, but it can still bounce and you generally cannot get away with using auto-aim with it as it will most likely still aim at a well armoured part of your target and still bounce.
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No, that used to be the situation. Back in the days when premium ammo gave an extra 20-40mm penetration. A well angled tank still had a high chance of bouncing. Now we're at the pay to win stage with 100+mm extra penetration on gold ammo, angling a tank is nigh useless and it'll go straight through unless your tank seriously overlevels them.
 
My major complaint about gold ammo is the unbalancing influence.

I did not grind a E100 so that some scrot with gold ammo can take 100mm away from my frontal armour.

WG spend ages balancing the game with std ammo and then throw that away with gold ammo.

If the Hetzer had been introduced with a gun that fired shells doing 350dmg with 150mm pen and 7rpm it would have been rightly shouted down as OP. But oh look, a bit of gold ammo and you can one shot most stuff your tier. Plus even the heavies just get penned frontally with that and a decent roll. Lets remember std ammo has a pen of 64mm LESS THAN HALF. I know it's an extreme example.

Gold ammo was introduced as a clan wars thing, as the 'reward' for holding territory. To be honest it shouldn't have been.

Gold ammo, it really wont be long before we see gold armour.
 
Agree with all the statements above. Gold ammo is designed to make them money. Period.

Along with pay for camo, consumables etc it's now gone a step too far and the only thing we can do is vote with our feet and leave them to it. Shame really as it's a decent game. I've certainly not missed it over the past few days since I gave it up again. I've downloaded War Thunder and I'm going to give that a go.
 
Mod folder for 8.4 please??

Can someone upload the mods folder for 8.4 as we did with 8.3 please? As I keep getting crashes when I try my xvm/reload mod :(

Regarding gold ammo, I use gold ammo 70%/30% on my M4/261 only, why? Because I find it more fun :D, on my other tanks I always carry a few gold shells but will only ever load them if the games going down to the wire, or I come across a very tough tank (normally TD's tbh). (Company battles are another matter)

Wargames need ways to make money in order to be able to provide a "free" game, I wonder what percentage of players use premium? As if that rate was enough to run/develop the game then gold ammo could be removed?

As already stated though, gold ammo should have a set amount of extra pen (25%+ eg) and lower damage (-25% eg). Not ammo that for some tanks gives massive increases and for others only a minor increase in pen.

I feel gold ammo has a place in the game, but maybe fixing the amount that could be carried to say 10-20% of shells would stop the rage a little, or up the credit cost of gold shells as some tanks (M4, make credits shooting almost pure gold)
 
War Thunder just looks like a flight sim to me and I'm not too into those.

The premium ammo thing is one reason why I've stopped paying for a premium account now as the tier 10 heavy balancing is so screwed against you at tier 10 by high damage high pen guns, artillery and premium ammo. Also the fact they can't bring a 1960s Cheiften into the game as its too late era, however an AMX 12t is fine despite also being from the 1960s. Then there is the invincible low health tanks and the penetration bug/spaced armour...

Basically the things that annoy me are enough to alienate me from spending more money and that is a loss for WG, especially as even in this thread I do not appear to be alone.
 
linktoinsanity said:
War Thunder just looks like a flight sim to me and I'm not too into those.

The premium ammo thing is one reason why I've stopped paying for a premium account now as the tier 10 heavy balancing is so screwed against you at tier 10 by high damage high pen guns, artillery and premium ammo. Also the fact they can't bring a 1960s Cheiften into the game as its too late era, however an AMX 12t is fine despite also being from the 1960s. Then there is the invincible low health tanks and the penetration bug/spaced armour...

Basically the things that annoy me are enough to alienate me from spending more money and that is a loss for WG, especially as even in this thread I do not appear to be alone.
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Yeah, not a massive fan of flyers myself but I don't think War Thunder is a 'sim' as such.

Will give it a go anyway as I'm refusing to go back to WoT for a while - it really has annoyed the crap out of me lately. I gave it a break for a week came back and it was just as bad - maybe I made the mistake of playing tier X tanks as some have suggested (and you're probably correct) but there are plenty of idiots at lower tiers. Playing solo is where the problem really sits though so if I do come back for a game or two it will be as a platoon, TC or CW for sure.

I'll probably get kicked out of TAC for inactivity but meh, cba with the whole thing at the moment.

Supcom 2 tonight link? :D
 
More epic carnage! Shame I don't record my games :(

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Don't know why i haven't tried the US TD's until now, having lots of fun on a T49 atm. Think i might just keep the Hellcat when i get it and not go further if it plays the same.

Really nice being able to sprint to good locations or relocate, so used to the Ferdi and JgdTiger taking an age to get anywhere :)
 
T49 and Hellcat are fun, there scoot and shoot tanks, with paper armour and very slow turret but can pack a punch :)
I done the same, i have had the T25/2 unlocked for ages, but not really bothered if i buy it or not
 
Not really a fan of t9 and t10 matches tbh, i've hardly played my jgdtiger for that reason so doubt i'd enjoy them in a t30 any more. If i was to go past the hellcat it would probably be for the t28 prototype and no further. t5 to 8 is where i seem to have the most fun.
 
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