There are plenty of examples where the PS3 was less powerful than the Xbox just at delivering graphics. While the raw hardware was more powerful, the Xbox was more easily optimised by most developers. For example, F1 2012 on the PS3 looks god awful.
Pc graphics. No where near as good as consoles !
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There are plenty of examples where the PS3 was less powerful than the Xbox just at delivering graphics. While the raw hardware was more powerful, the Xbox was more easily optimised by most developers. For example, F1 2012 on the PS3 looks god awful.
There seems to be a lot of statements in this thread which are basically just made up by the poster and then posted as fact... For example especially regarding PC vs Console performance at similar specs.... You are simply pulling personal opinions based on your own logic out of thin air and posting them as fact. It has been proved multiple times and even quoted by developers that realistically you need up to twice the power for a PC compared to a console game made for dedicated hardware... Maybe this will be a bit different in the next gen due to the similarities between the PS4 and PC hardware..... But simply posting your own opinion in a "matter of fact" style does not make it true lol...
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This is an example.
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Hmmm do you have a link for this? That would be crap if the PS4 is not even 1080p.
Cos we are all in denial that we are obessed with the size of our E-Penises and find it abhorrent to think that a lowly console that retails for just 400 GBP could even come close to challenging the performance of our gaming rigs that cost us over 2000 quid.
In my case, I have just bought a gaming laptop for taking with me when I go offshore, and i am particulary interested in knowing how its performance would stack up in the course of time against the PS4. Cos if it it can match the PS4, then I could be gaming on it as long as the PS4 remains current.*
My Gaming laptop:
HDD, ATI HD 7970M 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
Intel Core i7-3740QM (2.70GHz - 3.70Ghz) (Ivybridge) Mobile Processor
Corsair Vengeance SODIMM 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz
Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb SSD
The gfx card is actually a bit more powerful than what will be used in the PS4 and the CPU is much more powerful. However, if the CPU in the PS4 is a genuine 8 core (8 seperate physical cores) as opposed to a quad core utilisng hyper threading, then perhaps as games devs become ever more proficient at coding games for multicore CPUs, my CPU will become obsolete as far as keeping up with a next gen standard of console gaming is concerned.
*yes, I know that I may have to put up with 30 fps in many games and will get none of the eye candy intended for proper PC gaming rigs etc etc...blah blah blah
Not really because the CPU in the PS4 and Xbox720 is quite weak really... It does have 8 dedicated cores but they are 1.6Ghz and AMD CPU which is not even as good as a Bulldozer etc. A Quad core i7 at 3.7Ghz should easily be enough CPU power depending what res etc. Because 4 i7 cores at 3.2Ghz have more processing power than 8 weaker AMD cores at 1.6ghz. Depends if the game is well ported to run on 4 threads instead of 8.... An example of this would be GTA4 which the PC port runs terribly on anything other than a 4Ghz i7 because it wes badly ported for quad cores ... I think the 8GB GDDR5 in the PS4 may change PC requirements quite a bit though.
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8GB Video RAM!?
Jeezus Bajeezus!
Gaming at 1080p, I find that the 3Gb on my HD 7970 doesn't ever come close to being fully utilised, and this card is more than twice as powerful (in terms of TFLOPS) as the PS4 card.
I am wondering if there will ever really be a 'point' in a relatively weak GPU having so much RAM to play with......
.....but then, I don't have a clue about 3d rendering, games developing, or anything else really.
So basically, the real game changer with the PS4 is that it will come with ultrafast RAM, which will in turn change the way that games are developed?
Mmmm because you don't actually need that much GPU power to load lots of high res textures into the ram.... Well you do need memory bandwidth but most of the GPU power is shaders, lighting etc.
The 8gb GDDR5 is shared between the GPU and CPU but still it is a lot compared to Xbox360 for example which had 512mb.... This is probably why your 7970 never gets anywhere near 3Gb usage because the textures are mostly designed for consoles as the lowest platform and then upscaled to PC.... Maybe a couple of games which were actually developed for PC will use around 2Gb such as BF3....
When the consoles have 8gb to play with I expect 3gb of textures etc. will actually be used. Obviously we wont be seeing 8gb used but I wouldn't be suprised to see 4Gb cards in the next few years which are actually using a large chunk of that for high res textures etc.... I expect we will see games with a lot higher textures and also more advanced physics as standard....
The 8gb GDDR5 is shared between the GPU and CPU but still it is a lot compared to Xbox360 for example which had 512mb.... This is probably why your 7970 never gets anywhere near 3Gb usage because the textures are mostly designed for consoles as the lowest platform and then upscaled to PC.... Maybe a couple of games which were actually developed for PC will use around 2Gb such as BF3....
When the consoles have 8gb to play with I expect 3gb of textures etc. will actually be used. Obviously we wont be seeing 8gb used but I wouldn't be suprised to see 4Gb cards in the next few years which are actually using a large chunk of that for high res textures etc.... I expect we will see games with a lot higher textures and also more advanced physics as standard....
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My apologies, but you've been here one month. Not quite long enough to make any sort of judgement on the community certainly not one as disparaging as that. These sorts of threads exist because we find the technology interesting and technological development is interesting in addition to weighing up buying decisions. This isn't the comments section of youtube where AMD fanboys sling mud at nvidia fanboys just because.
yeah...been here not even a month...but been on plenty other similar forums much much longer and I did kind of include myself when I made the comment suggesting that a lot of people here tend to become a bit obsessive compulsive with the 3d rendering capabilities of thier PCs.
Also, I do believe that this thread started out as another 'Consoles V PC / Is PC Gaming dead type' thread. There are so many of these threads around on PC gaming forums because the PC gamer is a peculiar breed (again, I include myself), that has come to attribute a level of priority to his 3d gaming experiences which most other people simply dont recognise/appreciate. With the clear dominance of the much cheaper and much more easily accessible console gaming (everywhere except Germany pretty much), we somehow feel threatened by the consoles as though they could one day make our gaming PCs irrelevant. We feel the need to start threads on internet forums decrying the much lower quality of graphics on consoles and forcefully reminding those who dare to forget, that our 2000 quid machines run games much better thand everyone elses 200 quid console. With the new consoles on the horizon, we all have one eye focussed on pointing out how low powered the 'next gen' of consoles will be compared to our current rigs, with the other eye looking out for which ways that the consoles could threaten and undermime our beloved rigs.
You may think that the above is a load of ******** as it probably doesn't sit well with how you like to think of yourself, but I guarantee, that if you took a moment to honestly reflect, then you would agree that something along those lines applies very much to yourself as it does probably to most people on here.
Having a high end gaming rig isn't just about the disproportionate amount of money that is regularly spent on it (as opposed to a one off 300 quid payment that keeps u good for the next 7-8 years), but the amount of time that it swallows up simply maintaining it, squeezing out that little bit extra power, getting games running optimally, and ironing out the endless conflicts and compatibilty issues. If I had a regular 9-5 job or any kind of real responsibilities, then there is no way could I justify my OCD PC gaming habit. Like I said, PC gamers are a special breed.
I think you are stereotyping PC gamers there... Yes there is an element of OCD and it can be very expensive but also if you are clever about upgrades you can have a better gaming experience than consoles and not really spend THAT much money.... Maybe a CPU / mobo upgrade once every 4-5 years and then well picked GPU upgrades maybe getting last years top of range card etc...
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To be honest even with the moderate amount of gaming I do, considering I needed a desktop to give me the power I needed for photography work, the gaming decision only really cost me £300 of the 5870. And then I've probably saved about £200 over the years on the cost of pc games instead of console games, and then £40 on live, and then £100 on being able to buy a Fanatec GT3RS instead of a GT2 with Xbox licensing.
Of course it does.
I am just imagining that my soundcard drivers have just inexplicably failed, and after trying several things, that I had to uninstall them all and put them all back on again. And surely the fact that everytime my PC boots up since then, disk checker insists on checking my C drive when I know there is fk all wrong with it.
The 1 hour of my life that I have lost doing this is just in my imagination. As will the rest of the time be that I waste on further sorting out this problem that is only in my imagination anyway.
Afterall, these days everything just kinda works.
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