GB's teen crime commisioner - should she step down?

[bitslice]

and i must say, i've never seen the term ''illegals'' as shorthand for immigrants.

Then I guess you are not a teenager then?

Have you ever noticed that teenagers views on everything are often superficial?
That is because they are teenagers and haven't the benefit of a few years looking at the world from outside their own little bubble.

That's also probably why she isn't yet elligable to vote and why her casual conversations with other teens on social media outlets should not be over analysed by the Politically Correct Police.

Look at yourself, condemning the vacant thoughts of a silly girl as outright racism this is why all you PC people are laughable, as you seek only to push your own social fascist agenda into everyone's face.

Get a grip.


I actually feel a bit sorry for her.

"Just had a photoshoot with mail on sunday now off to speak to one of their journalists! Weathers lovely! @annbarneskpcc eventful week "

She doesn't even realise that she's about to be torn to shreds by the Mail, just to sell more papers

 

[Nitefly]

In two minds about this. Yeah, those comments aren't great, but it's incredibly cruel to judge a juvenile for juvenile comments.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

I haven't read the full thread here, but my point of view is that, if the way the media is reporting it is correct, and she has made racist, homophobic, and bigoted statements (I couldn't care less about any bad language or her being drunk) then that shows that she has prejudices towards certain groups of people. If she's supposed to reflect the entirely neutral (apparently) attitude of the police, then I think they've got the wrong person, because she certainly isn't representative of that (again, judging by news reports).

The poor girl must be having an awful time of it though; imagine having your mug up on the daily mail.

 

[cm1179]

Then I guess you are not a teenager then?

Have you ever noticed that teenagers views on everything are often superficial?
That is because they are teenagers and haven't the benefit of a few years looking at the world from outside their own little bubble.

no i'm not a teenager but i was once and (as i've already stated) i wouldn't have been the right person to do a job like this at her age but i knew people who are and there are probably 1000 better candidates for the job for her, hence why i feel she should be given the boot and get someone more deserving for this role.

£15k is not an earth shattering amount of money but it's a decent whack for a teenager and there's people doing a lot more for the same or less. this job brings responsibility.

how did they decide she was the right person for the job? imo it probably went a little like this; 'blue sky thinking in the boardroom, this idea is thrown out there then the question 'but who could we get to fulfil this role?' is asked board member puts her name forward.

i could be totally wrong though.

 

[Destination]

In two minds about this. Yeah, those comments aren't great, but it's incredibly cruel to judge a juvenile for juvenile comments.

Lets start again.
Why does the post exist?
Who appointed her?
Why didn't they check her social media past, as one would do when employing a person for such a position?

Its not as much about a teenager stating she is an underage drunken racist, but those who appointed her to a taxpayer funded position after she made such comments.

 

[Destination]

how did they decide she was the right person for the job? imo it probably went a little like this; 'blue sky thinking in the boardroom, this idea is thrown out there then the question 'but who could we get to fulfil this role?' is asked board member puts her name forward.

i could be totally wrong though.

I will assume you are totally wrong, else them appointing people without advertsing and interviewing or adequate selection criteria sounds very wrong to create any taxpayer funded position.
If they selected in the manner you suggest, they might be open to sacking for wasting public funds.

 

[bitslice]

Why didn't they check her social media past, as one would do when employing a person for such a position?

That's a scary precedent
Do you seriously want your Facebook checked over every time you apply for a job?

Its not as much about a teenager stating she is an underage drunken racist, but those who appointed her to a taxpayer funded position after she made such comments.

Thank goodness we had no drunken racists running the Government during WWII, clearly they would have been incompetent in the role

 

[cm1179]

That's a scary precedent
Do you seriously want your Facebook checked over every time you apply for a job?

this happens. and this isn't just any job, is it? and it wasn't facebook she splurged this garbage over either, it was twitter. nothing much goes viral faster than something on twitter if people want it to. does twitter not have an age limit like facebook? (not that it makes any difference)

 

[Jono8]

So bitslice, do you think she should keep her job (keeping in mind what the job actually is) even though she has admitted to underage drinking, drugs, and condoning violence (with a hint of homophobia and maybe a little bit of racism) ?

 

[Destination]

That's a scary precedent
Do you seriously want your Facebook checked over every time you apply for a job?
Thank goodness we had no drunken racists running the Government during WWII, clearly they would have been incompetent in the role

Many employers do check your social media.
As for drunken racists, he was a political chap, who was voted for. Much like the facist he was fighting.
If people know what they are getting fine, but you out it out there, showing you have prior knowledge, rather than try to superglue it all back together afterwards.

As I have said over and over, its about the post existing, how the person was appointed, and the lack of vetting that appears to have taken place. Not about the girl herself or any views she has.

 

[Nitefly]

So bitslice, do you think she should keep her job (keeping in mind what the job actually is) even though she has admitted to underage drinking, drugs, and condoning violence (with a hint of homophobia and maybe a little bit of racism) ?

In the context that it's a 16 year old making these comments it does seem somewhat petty judging her in her subsequent position of authority. Ooo underage drinking, shocker!

 

[cm1179]

In the context that it's a 16 year old making these comments it does seem somewhat petty judging her in her subsequent position of authority. Ooo underage drinking, shocker!

but lot's of people seem to be missing the point here and it's why is she so deserving of the job?

 

[timebomb26]

So bitslice, do you think she should keep her job (keeping in mind what the job actually is) even though she has admitted to underage drinking, drugs, and condoning violence (with a hint of homophobia and maybe a little bit of racism) ?

"Sounds a bit overqualified."

 

[Aeleys]

How are we paying 15k for a nothing role anyway?

Doesn't matter about her tweets, sack her and save 15k a year.

this!

what a pointless job.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

but lot's of people seem to be missing the point here and it's why is she so deserving of the job?

If it makes you feel any better, I know what you're talking about.

 

[bitslice]

So bitslice, do you think she should keep her job (keeping in mind what the job actually is) even though she has admitted to underage drinking, drugs, and condoning violence (with a hint of homophobia and maybe a little bit of racism) ?

Firstly all these comments were made before she took the job and I don't see why a childs immature comments should be held against them. Certainly not years later.

I also don't agree that what is said on someone's social media is anybodies business apart from her friends or anyone she specifically names.

I also disagree that Tabloids have the right to do a hatchet job on a kid who is clearly unprepared for such a nasty media ****storm, and I'm fed up of the way the DM clearly expects to influence political and public life all the time, they are just a bunch of nasty selfish ****holes out to destory other peoples lives for the sake of selling spin stories.

As she has quickly disowned her comments and apologised for any offence (which is a damn sight more than any other politician would do!), then I'd consider her clear of any integrity issues.

I'd trust her to represent normal young people more than I'd trust a personality free clone that did nothing wrong their entire life. That she has carried on in the face of blatant media abuse says a lot about her true character I think.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

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I'll say it again. How can she represent our police force when she clearly has prejudices of her own.

 

[Jono8]

In the context that it's a 16 year old making these comments it does seem somewhat petty judging her in her subsequent position of authority. Ooo underage drinking, shocker!

but we are talking about someone who has been appointed "teen crime commisioner". What sort of role model is that?

 

[Jono8]

Firstly all these comments were made before she took the job and I don't see why a childs immature comments should be held against them. Certainly not years later.

I also don't agree that what is said on someone's social media is anybodies business apart from her friends or anyone she specifically names.

I also disagree that Tabloids have the right to do a hatchet job on a kid who is clearly unprepared for such a nasty media ****storm, and I'm fed up of the way the DM clearly expects to influence political and public life all the time, they are just a bunch of nasty selfish ****holes out to destory other peoples lives for the sake of selling spin stories.

As she has quickly disowned her comments and apologised for any offence (which is a damn sight more than any other politician would do!), then I'd consider her clear of any integrity issues.

I'd trust her to represent normal young people more than I'd trust a personality free clone that did nothing wrong their entire life. That she has carried on in the face of blatant media abuse says a lot about her true character I think.

So, is that a yes?

 

[cm1179]

Firstly all these comments were made before she took the job and I don't see why a childs immature comments should be held against them. Certainly not years later.

I also don't agree that what is said on someone's social media is anybodies business apart from her friends or anyone she specifically names.

I also disagree that Tabloids have the right to do a hatchet job on a kid who is clearly unprepared for such a nasty media ****storm, and I'm fed up of the way the DM clearly expects to influence political and public life all the time, they are just a bunch of nasty selfish ****holes out to destory other peoples lives for the sake of selling spin stories.

As she has quickly disowned her comments and apologised for any offence (which is a damn sight more than any other politician would do!), then I'd consider her clear of any integrity issues.

I'd trust her to represent normal young people more than I'd trust a personality free clone that did nothing wrong their entire life. That she has carried on in the face of blatant media abuse says a lot about her true character I think.

but it's not years later. some were less than 12 months. which again, leads to the question what qualities did she show to land the job?

was she an upstanding pillar of her local youth community? a fund raiser? school rep? i honestly don't know. i'd like to know as it would atleast shed a little light on how she got into such a role.

just because someone leads a comparitively conservative life (ie not spurting nonsense over twitter, getting drunk etc) doesn't mean they couldn't succeed at this role.

you're essentially building a case for why she should get the sack.