*breaking news* Boston Marathon explosions

[hurfdurf]

do you have a prior example of a security company, in a western country, carrying out a terrorist attack in which they have killed and maimed people in order to increase revenue?

 

[anything I don't mind]

Of course:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...public-events-safety-20130416,0,3651740.story

The preparations that go into an event like the state fair in Springfield include assessments from the Statewide Terrorism and Intelligence Center, which Thompson said is made up of officials from the state police, the U.S. Homeland Security Department and other law enforcement agencies.

Already talking about increasing security at london marathon as a result. Which is not proof of anything at all, just pointing out that if the motive was to encourage security industry it has been successful so far.

multi $billion on security industry and they still fail, the only solution is too hand them much more money and allow them to take away more of our liberties of course.

The problem as well is that is always the FBI that ends up in charge of investigating these terrorist attack and to be honest, FBI has the most terrible track record at investigating terrorist attacks. If they are not assisting in setting them up, they are investigating them, oh great.

If they want to find out who did it, upload all the evidence they get to the internet and it will be solved within a week. But they won't do that and they certainly won't even consider the possibility that the culprit was not some cliche terrorist that fits in to their nice little criteria of a terrorist. They investigate with a narrow view point and end up lying because they don't consider all possibilities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots

 

[n111ck]

Loon.

 

[sports_brah]

I understand what Groen is saying about the losing of liberties, we allow terrorists far to much in the way of getting their way. Watch some more laws come into effect because of this.

The part about the security services doing it though....

 

[Bar]

Groen - neither of those cases provide evidence of a security firm instigating a terrorist attack to boost profits.

To be honest the rest of your post has little basis in fact or evidence.

 

[Stretch]

This is kind of interesting, on the day Boston horrifically discovered what being bombed feels like, the US Supreme Court was turning down Boston College's request to keep tapes it had of recorded IRA members away from the NI Police.

http://www.wbur.org/2013/04/15/ira-tapes-boston-college

I wonder how the Dean of Boston College feels about protecting terrorist bombers today.

I though about the Boston IRA connection the moment the bomb went off. Appalling as it is (none of the victims in any way deserve what's happend), I hope the people of Boston now understand why funding thugs only brings misery and is unacceptable.

I also hope that America as a whole begin to understand that actions have consequences.

 

[Jono8]

Of course:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...public-events-safety-20130416,0,3651740.story



Already talking about increasing security at london marathon as a result. Which is not proof of anything at all, just pointing out that if the motive was to encourage security industry it has been successful so far.

multi $billion on security industry and they still fail, the only solution is too hand them much more money and allow them to take away more of our liberties of course.

The problem as well is that is always the FBI that ends up in charge of investigating these terrorist attack and to be honest, FBI has the most terrible track record at investigating terrorist attacks. If they are not assisting in setting them up, they are investigating them, oh great.

If they want to find out who did it, upload all the evidence they get to the internet and it will be solved within a week. But they won't do that and they certainly won't even consider the possibility that the culprit was not some cliche terrorist that fits in to their nice little criteria of a terrorist. They investigate with a narrow view point and end up lying because they don't consider all possibilities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots

Out of interest, when you watch and hear Obama speak do you think it is all lies and that he is evil?

 

[Raymond Lin]

Of course:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...public-events-safety-20130416,0,3651740.story



Already talking about increasing security at london marathon as a result. Which is not proof of anything at all, just pointing out that if the motive was to encourage security industry it has been successful so far.

multi $billion on security industry and they still fail, the only solution is too hand them much more money and allow them to take away more of our liberties of course.

The problem as well is that is always the FBI that ends up in charge of investigating these terrorist attack and to be honest, FBI has the most terrible track record at investigating terrorist attacks. If they are not assisting in setting them up, they are investigating them, oh great.

If they want to find out who did it, upload all the evidence they get to the internet and it will be solved within a week. But they won't do that and they certainly won't even consider the possibility that the culprit was not some cliche terrorist that fits in to their nice little criteria of a terrorist. They investigate with a narrow view point and end up lying because they don't consider all possibilities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots

I hear the job for the US president is open in a few years, application open in about 18 months.

Why don't you apply?

 

[MrMoonX]

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tin foil hat o'clock

 

[braveheart]

Very sad that has happen as boston is great place, we went on cunard cruise years ago.. love this place as it much irish live in boston.. but this happened struck was much damaged.. it really sad... it very diffuclt for tighter security cos it covered too many people attend at this race

 

[Biohazard]

Out of interest, when you watch and hear Obama speak do you think it is all lies and that he is evil?

I think he's a Lizard man if that helps?

 

[Edrof]

love this place as it much irish live in boston.. but this happened struck was much damaged..

No offence meant, but I can't make out what you are saying there.

 

[anything I don't mind]

Out of interest, when you watch and hear Obama speak do you think it is all lies and that he is evil?

Obama is nothing more than a PR man he has a lot less power than most people realize.

I wouldn't say evil to the core but he is certainly not a nice person, well he might pretend to be one, but in my opinion he is not a nice person. Obama reminds me of david blaine or darren brown. He reads what he is told and says what he needs to manipulate people.

 

[aayzof]

More likely to be domestic extremism than international terrorism.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Obama is nothing more than a PR man he has a lot less power than most people realize.

I wouldn't say evil to the core but he is certainly not a nice person, well he might pretend to be one, but in my opinion he is not a nice person. Obama reminds me of david blaine or darren brown. He reads what he is told and says what he needs to manipulate people.

Who exactly is his puppet master groen?

 

[One More Solo]

More likely to be domestic extremism than international terrorism.

Extremism and terrorism are completely different things. This was terrorism whether domestic or international.

 

[anything I don't mind]

Who exactly is his puppet master groen?

The rest of the individuals within the government. The top folks at the alphabet soup FBI/SAIC/NSA/DOD/CIA/ and on and on as well as private sector. You didn't hear mr osama, sorry obama (sorry typo) was recruited and trained to be a president and had involvement with private companies as well?

 

[Sliver]

I wouldn't say evil to the core but he is certainly not a nice person

What has he done or said that makes you feel he is not a nice person ?

I'm just curious because I've been into US politics for a good few years now and my findings lead me to believe he is actually a nice person.

 

[Raymond Lin]

The rest of the individuals within the government. The top folks at the alphabet soup FBI/SAIC/NSA/DOD/CIA/ and on and on as well as private sector. You didn't hear mr osama, sorry obama (sorry typo) was recruited and trained to be a president and had involvement with private companies as well?

recruited and trained?

Lol ! Are you reading that Mitt Romney? Where were your Republican contacts that didn't get you in to this special school? All that money and couldn't get a place in a class?

 

[estebanrey]

To be fair to groen is strangely right on this one (Obama not being as powerful as people think). It does annoy me when describe the President as the United States as the 'most powerful man on Earth', he can't do anything without congress agreeing.

Just look at the recent case of gun control, clearly Obama wants to be bring in much tougher laws so why hasn't he if he's so powerful? The answer, he can't and doesn't have the powers to do anything but bring up the topic and hope to persuade the rest of Washington to vote for it.