F12 M6 & M135i Drive

Jono8 said:
No, as much as i want one of these, it is not a very good looking car.
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At the end of the day it's entirely subjective.

When I first saw the press photos of the M135i I thought the same, and this was cemented when the standard 1 series models started to appear on the road.

When I saw my first M135i in the flesh, I thought it looked absolutely awesome.
 
[TW]Fox;24207859 said:
But nobody buys a hatchback because it's so beautiful so how big a deal is it really?
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But they can do better than this surely! I know BMW like all their cars to look identical, but this takes the biscuit!

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pioneer2000 said:
But they can do better than this surely! I know BMW like all their cars to look identical, but this takes the biscuit!

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Funny thing is, when the new 1 series came out and the press photos were posted on here, I remember literally everyone absolutely hating its looks and not believing the figures.

Talk about double standards. :o
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PMKeates said:
I love how a small hatchback for £30,000+ is a 'bargain' :p
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I guess its is because, you will be hard pushed to find something as fast,economical and practical as this for the money.

In fact is there anything else that is as fast as this for 30k new?
 
What do we reckon these will be worth in ~3 years time? I suppose no one can really say at the moment :p. Would be very tempted to save up for a used one and slap the BMW warranty on it in a few years maybe.
 
Jono8 said:
What do we reckon these will be worth in ~3 years time? I suppose no one can really say at the moment :p. Would be very tempted to save up for a used one and slap the BMW warranty on it in a few years maybe.
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The industry has a pretty good prediction of the future values of the cars - it's what the monthly lease rates, PCP options etc. have been calculated on. The residual values are better than average.
Jono8 said:
I guess its is because, you will be hard pushed to find something as fast,economical and practical as this for the money.

In fact is there anything else that is as fast as this for 30k new?
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Is the only definition of the value competition limited to performance, fuel economy and it being a brand new hatchback? For £30k you could get some great cars that I'd consider much better 'value'.

It's potentially the best value new small hatchback, but that doesn't make it the best value £30k car!
 
wingman said:
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:D

If a 5 year old Datsun sold by Keighley is the benchmark of value, the M135i is the bargain to end them all...

Accepting that the looks are marmite at best (that nose :eek:), a 320bhp car with the right boxes ticked, that'll realistically return a real world combined of ~30mpg, with a 3 year warranty for <£500 a month over 3 years is pretty decent value imo.

I don't think I'll ever understand why the auto box is so popular though. I don't doubt that the engine / autobox will be damn good, but I've never found an auto/dual clutch "manual" as involving to drive.

I couldn't care less how fast I'm going, I just want to feel like I'm going fast.

I hope Scott212 is just a bit over excited (for good reason), because at face value, some of the excitable posts come across as being a bit of a fanboy/tit. I know you've looked back at things you've posted previously & cringed, I just hope (genuinely) that you & your new toy stay in one piece, because as things stand, an over-excitable young lad with a car that's far too easy to go far too fast in, looks like an accident waiting to happen.

You seemed to turn your nose up at the idea of needing driver training, so if it helps appease your ego, maybe look at it as getting some tips on how to get the best out of you car from a pro / race driver?

@Fox, given what Housey said re ride quality Vs his F10, & the likelihood of any F10 purchase being both diesel & auto, are you tempted to book a test drive in a manual M135i w/ adaptive drive?
 
I've thought about getting an M135i on and off since they were released; as good as they are for all round ability, the long and short of it is that I can't bring myself to buy a brand new 1 Series. It just doesn't seem sporty enough for me. I could be completely wrong but I'm more drawn towards a used Z4 35i or 35is with the DCT box. Maybe not as dynamically polished, but feels a little bit more special.
 
I don't like the F10s ride I've decided. For me it is the cars Achilles heel and does remove an otherwise brilliant package from greatness. Active ride is better but you know what, it's still not perfect. It's a shame really but it makes me think about changing the car most weeks when I have a waft box that rides worse than an RS4 with much less performance.
 
Panthro have you driven one? Im not saying it will be to your taste but certainly worth a test drive ..
 
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Sam said:
Panthro have you drive one? Im not saying it will be to your taste but certainly worth a test drive ..
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I have, drove one from Sytner Sunningdale in October last year. I did really enjoy it from the short test drive; probably need an extended test drive to get a feel for it. Coming from an E92 M3 though I was always going to be comparing it to that.
 
Kingy said:
I hope Scott212 is just a bit over excited (for good reason), because at face value, some of the excitable posts come across as being a bit of a fanboy/tit. I know you've looked back at things you've posted previously & cringed, I just hope (genuinely) that you & your new toy stay in one piece, because as things stand, an over-excitable young lad with a car that's far too easy to go far too fast in, looks like an accident waiting to happen.
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I'm going to respond to this because I accept your point. I have been extremely excited recently and probably too defensive of people who have criticised the car. It also didn't help when I came on here on Saturday night after a long pub session and posted a load of rubbish. It must be fairly amusing for the older users on here seeing the highly predictable reactions of a young driver to their first fast car.

I know the M135i isn't the fastest car on the roads and I have very limited experience driving fast cars but to me it feels insanely fast. I can't imagine even cars like a 911 Turbo will do the 30-80 sprint that much faster. Again, let me stress this is entirely an impression as I have little to compare it to in terms of performance cars - and when I say 'that' I mean significantly, massively faster.

I think in my defence I have always said that I know I am not the best driver. One thing that annoys me is people my age who think they are incredible drivers, no one in their early twenties unless they drive as a career is going to be that experienced in the grand scheme of things. Knowing this I've been extremely careful in my new car. I would be foolish not to listen to warnings from people like yourself e.g. "an over-excitable young lad with a car that's far too easy to go far too fast in, looks like an accident waiting to happen."

So I apologise if some of my posts came across that way, it was not intended I have just been very excited indeed.
 
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As for the looks, again I'm sorry for being so defensive but I don't understand how people can have such a strong opinion of something they haven't actually seen in the flesh. It's OK to say 'well it doesn't look that great in the photos' but to just outrightly state 'it's ugly' when you haven't even seen it seems a bit silly.

Who here has seen an Estoril Blue M135i in the flesh, had a good look at it, and still thinks it's ugly? I'm genuinely interested because I honestly believe it looks far better in real life than it does in photos.

At the end of the day it is of course subjective but looks aren't everything. I did look at the Golf GTI ED35 before this which IMO does look better, or certainly in photos - but I would have been crazy when an extra couple of grand gets me the M135i.

The M135i is kind of similar to the GTR in that it offers sublime performance for the money but for similar cash you can buy a better looking car - in their respective classes - which isn't quite as fast. Is that a fair statement? The GTR is an astonishing car but it's not a looker in my fully entitled subjective opinion :D
 
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