Certain Supermarket that I work for has Underpaid Me

el_dazza said:
It really isn't as straightforward as you're trying to make it. This guy constantly screws us over and is one of the most annoying, obnoxious people you dare to imagine. A brief chat about football or whatever isn't a problem, talking about work for 20-30 minutes at a time when you're not working grates on me. As working relationships go, ours is strained somewhat. I'd be here all day if i were to explain why.
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ah okay fair enough :)
 
ThatAsianGuy said:
Just Went in right now, and gave the sheet I had to the manager there, and she said she will sort it out and will take around 2-3 days to verify it e.t.c
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Those 2-3 days are filling out your P45, putting a vacancy with the local recruiting agencies and then waiting for a pole to come along.
 
ci_newman said:
Well, one **** reply gets another I guess. I wouldn't dream of talking to my boss that way.
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Retail is different to most jobs.

When I worked retail I told my manager in uncertain terms if he didn't "flip off" and leave me alone I'd insert a cage of frozen chickens into his colon.

He was really bugging me and pushing me though, trying to blame his shortcomings on me. He just said fine and left me to it.
 
OP I'd pretty much guessed who you worked for from the onset given that we've both been paid on the same day :p

I've now got just over five years of service and while I'm not customer facing (I don't work in a shop) but I can relate to the issues your experiencing having seen some of them first hand. The "managers" from my experience are nothing more than whipping boys for the higher echelons - to be fair I appreciate they're sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place receiving conflict both from their bosses and their own crews. But this doesn't seem to stop the majority of them from trying to lead through intimidation and bullying - to my mind a manager should have the ability to think for himself (or herself) and not just blindly follow procedure stating that's company policy which from my experience is predominately what happens within this company!

In aid to your specific case - though you're still within your probationary period you do still have rights. Regardless of the argument of pro's and cons, join the union and have a rep sit in with you in any meeting you have with a manager. Even if for no other reason than you've got a witness to back up and clarify what has been said. Also keep note of every hour you work, clocking in and clocking out times, as well as any breaks and ensure it matches with what you've been paid. If you're not getting any joy with your immediate manager don't hesitate in going above his head.

Personally I never ever do over time - I know they can easily pick up the phone and have a dozen foreign workers in to pick up the slack and meet the volume. This also means I know exaclty the hours and shifts I'm working each week and can easily define my monthly income as it should never change. Hope you manage to get this sorted OP - let us know the outcome please?
 
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I used to work in the same supermarket as you (easy to tell :P). I quit last year and there were quite a few problems in terms of being underpaid. I did however, get overpaid at times as well which was not bad!
 
Supermarkets are terrible when it comes to paying staff, i've worked at one since october and they have yet to get my pay right, but raise it up with a manager along with the evidence and it gets sorted.

My pay was short 23 hours this month, got it sorted right away.
 
Uther said:
The thing was, you had to look keen to progress, and putting the hours in was how it was done.I ended up as nightshift manager.Complaining was considered 'rocking the boat' This was back in the '80's though.
These days its probably different.
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I doubt it.
 
Sonea Fifer said:
OP I'd pretty much guessed who you worked for from the onset given that we've both been paid on the same day :p

I've now got just over five years of service and while I'm not customer facing (I don't work in a shop) but I can relate to the issues your experiencing having seen some of them first hand. The "managers" from my experience are nothing more than whipping boys for the higher echelons - to be fair I appreciate they're sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place receiving conflict both from their bosses and their own crews. But this doesn't seem to stop the majority of them from trying to lead through intimidation and bullying - to my mind a manager should have the ability to think for himself (or herself) and not just blindly follow procedure stating that's company policy which from my experience is predominately what happens within this company!

In aid to your specific case - though you're still within your probationary period you do still have rights. Regardless of the argument of pro's and cons, join the union and have a rep sit in with you in any meeting you have with a manager. Even if for no other reason than you've got a witness to back up and clarify what has been said. Also keep note of every hour you work, clocking in and clocking out times, as well as any breaks and ensure it matches with what you've been paid. If you're not getting any joy with your immediate manager don't hesitate in going above his head.

Personally I never ever do over time - I know they can easily pick up the phone and have a dozen foreign workers in to pick up the slack and meet the volume. This also means I know exaclty the hours and shifts I'm working each week and can easily define my monthly income as it should never change. Hope you manage to get this sorted OP - let us know the outcome please?
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Well Long Story short, All the other managers, such as department, section managers are just about useless as a split condom (I can honestly say that, Id say 10 percent of managers are very good at there job), I went straight for the big boss (our night manager, essentially he runs the store at night), very experienced, looks grumpy, but always gets the job done. Old school geezer.

Anyways After I gave the sheet in the morning to one of the managers that I spoke to about the problem, the sheet contained all my overtime shifts The minutes/ hours I stayed behind on that shift (the managers have said I do get paid for it) and the total hours that I have worked BEFORE the cut off date, I realized the manager I gave it to wasent going to do nothing about it, or wasent going to sort it out.

So that same night I was working, spoke to the Main boss, and he reassured me he will sort it out asap, and none of this verification BS that the other manager tried to pull saying, I need to check with managers, will take a few days, this main manager was amazing in my opinion, sorted it out asap for me, and now going in tonight to see what will happen, and I will also ask for it in cash, due to I need the money for a religious holiday thus the reason for the overtime.

The main boss knows that I stay behind so in his eyes ima good worker(just a tad slower then the people on my section) im on a flexi contract, I am contracted 3 days, and added sun and wednesday. The main boss knows this, and he will sort it for me.
 
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Uther said:
The thing was, you had to look keen to progress, and putting the hours in was how it was done.I ended up as nightshift manager.Complaining was considered 'rocking the boat' This was back in the '80's though.
These days its probably different, so yes, get on to HR (or whatever they call it now) and sort it out.If you have it all down on paper, and the extra hours were sanctioned by management then there shouldn't be a problem.
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No different, anyone who wants to be a manager has to lick ass to get there.

Anyone who is a manager has to work **** hours and basically make unpopular decisions constantly.

Certainly was last time I looked.
 
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