Played support last night with a twitch ADC, waw he was useless and blaiming me for not helping even though i was pushing their support back allowing us to pressure their caitlyn. I rly need to buy some ADC champs. Other than that, Ziggs is still insanely fun to play!
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I prefer LoL because I find it simpler and generally faster paced.
I prefer the smaller map, the weaker creeps, the lack of 'randomness' you get with regards to runes and miss chance up hill, the jungle is smaller and simpler but also IMO more crucial to the game, the type of champ that goes into the jungle and the counter jungling is crucial to early ganking, then buff control late game is massive.
In DOTA ganks are about rotating your supports around the huge map and the jungle is used by the champ that can't farm against the tri-lane.
The lack of all champs straight away is annoying, but tbh I just spent a bit of money, and for the number of hours played, it is well worth it, and as long as you have 3 or 4 champs for each role then you will probably be fine, especially if you tend to pick support like me, because in draft pick I can be first or last and still get support.
I have also found that if I chime in straight away that I will take support unless someone else wants it, the whole team breaths a sigh of relief and tend to get less troll picks and afk's
I prefer the smaller map, the weaker creeps, the lack of 'randomness' you get with regards to runes and miss chance up hill, the jungle is smaller and simpler but also IMO more crucial to the game, the type of champ that goes into the jungle and the counter jungling is crucial to early ganking, then buff control late game is massive.
In DOTA ganks are about rotating your supports around the huge map and the jungle is used by the champ that can't farm against the tri-lane.
The lack of all champs straight away is annoying, but tbh I just spent a bit of money, and for the number of hours played, it is well worth it, and as long as you have 3 or 4 champs for each role then you will probably be fine, especially if you tend to pick support like me, because in draft pick I can be first or last and still get support.
I have also found that if I chime in straight away that I will take support unless someone else wants it, the whole team breaths a sigh of relief and tend to get less troll picks and afk's
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Really? You couldnt have worded that better, bc you sound everything like the thing you attempt not to be. The mere fact you label the game as 'casual' is pretty ridiculous in itself.
enjoy dota you belong there, together with all the sc loving hipsters who circle jerk over the game and rain down hate on anything else that doesnt fit into their predescribed logic of 'worth'
I played so good last night, got to 88 points in gold V then i started to play absolutely dreadful, now im back down to 32 
I need to teach myself not to want to continue, i could have easily have called it a night when i was at 88, but no, me being stupid thought one more and ill be in promo, 5 games later im down to 32....
I need to teach myself not to want to continue, i could have easily have called it a night when i was at 88, but no, me being stupid thought one more and ill be in promo, 5 games later im down to 32....
I think I've hit another plataeu for the time being around Gold 3. I can see myself making a lot of mistakes still though which means there is room for improvement. Just need to keep them in mind and maybe make a push for plat if I can find thej motivation!
Also, anyone who says they're stuck at lower ELOs because of team mates underperforming need to realise that you're stuck there because that's where you belong in terms of skill level. I genuinely believe that if you are a lot better than Bronze then you will get out of there no problems.
The pro teams have even proved it by recently being given a fresh lvl 30 account each and levelling it up from initial placement matches all the way up to Diamond (not sure if any have hit challenger yet on their smurfs).
Also, anyone who says they're stuck at lower ELOs because of team mates underperforming need to realise that you're stuck there because that's where you belong in terms of skill level. I genuinely believe that if you are a lot better than Bronze then you will get out of there no problems.
The pro teams have even proved it by recently being given a fresh lvl 30 account each and levelling it up from initial placement matches all the way up to Diamond (not sure if any have hit challenger yet on their smurfs).
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Yeah the problem there is the phrase 'a lot'. If you are a pro LCS player you are going to carry a team of bronze league players hard against an equal team of bronze league players. If you are good enough to be in the low silver leagues you might well still be better than everyone in the game but it would be a very slow progression up through bronze if there are enough troll players.
Sure some people are really overdoing the whine about how hard done to they are when the enemy team probably makes just as many mistakes and they aren't capitalizing, but on the other side, some people are just pathetically putting everyone down to suit there own ego.
When looking at ELO (which is designed for 1v1 games/sports) in a team game.
If the only way you can play with people of your actual skill level is to be significantly better than the people you are currently playing with, is where you are not where you are supposed to be? Is this not LoL's interpretation of ELO working as intended?
If the only way you can play with people of your actual skill level is to be significantly better than the people you are currently playing with, is where you are not where you are supposed to be? Is this not LoL's interpretation of ELO working as intended?
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It probably is a bit easier to get into, but I think your question is a misconception. Incidentally, the video vortex999 linked to a few posts back, which Scott was referring to prior to that, actually highlights this. To get good at LoL requires as much time and practice as any other competitive game.
On a different note, my results over the past few days have been pretty good (ignore the Kennen match
). I really should do more ranked though with the improvement I've been seeing in myself [as ADC] recently.
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I'd say it's more trying to get certain individuals to understand that it isn't all their teams fault and they need to accept they're partially to blame.
Yea, the thing people seem to focus on a lot is the actual leagues (Gold, Bronze etc.) I much preferred the old ELO ratings they had as it showed how close you were to others in terms of matchmaking as there is only a 50-100 point gap between Bronze 1 and Silver 5 (correct me if i'm wrong) which isn't that much at all.
So when you see people complaing how "Bronze was hell, i thought it'd get better when I moved up to Silver!" or similar they dont seem to realise the gap is nothing and they're probably still playing against the same group of people
Sorry I came across that way. I didn't mean to label the whole game as casual just it felt more casual to me than Dota. I felt like if I was playing them both I could relax a bit more while playing LoL rather than having to be at my best constantly. Although I don't doubt that it would change the higher up the ranks you get.
I'm not hating on LoL, I have no problem with it being as popular as it is and people enjoying the game. It's helping esports grow and become more popular so that is always a plus.
I meant it as in that LoL would be a bit easier for a brand new player to know how to play and get into the game than Dota. I know that pro LoL players spend just as much time practicing and perfecting their skills as anyone else so I'm not saying that the pro LoL players don't put in as much effort or time as pro Dota players.
The learning curve to get to the "able to play game and not get hated on by raging MOBA players" level is probably lower in LoL.
If you can't pull and stack and last hit and deny and know the best item build for every situation and cast all spells perfectly then you get raged at in DOTA
If you can't pull and stack and last hit and deny and know the best item build for every situation and cast all spells perfectly then you get raged at in DOTA
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penultimate weekend in the LCS some good games tomorrow So excited.
I have never actually enjoyed following a game as much as I do with LOL.
So intense.
Top 2 in NA is as good as decided but 3rd and 4th is all open.
and in the EU it's so close it's intense.
I have never actually enjoyed following a game as much as I do with LOL.
So intense.
Top 2 in NA is as good as decided but 3rd and 4th is all open.
and in the EU it's so close it's intense.
Doubt everyone has the same noble intentions... some of the responses from people read as 'I'm better than you cos I'm in a higher league'
Don't forget also getting raged at for not knowing what people you've never, ever played with before are about to do
I do laugh when I play support sometimes and its apparently my fault when the ADC goes all in without warning and winds up getting taken down, regardless of how close I actually was.
Got a bit bored of this LCS, C9 are so much better than any other NA team its embarrassing and none of the EU teams can show any kind of consistency.
LoL has basically reached a plateau in competitive play which is really boring to watch, the objective based play with 5 minute laning phases, lane swaps and crazy aggressive tower pushing EVERY DAMN GAME is getting a bit dull. It is far too easy for one team to get a game winning advantage early.
You can get raged at in LoL for both doing and not doing basically anything.
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I see your point but there are some amazing comebacks. I know you mentioned them already but Cloud 9 coming back from that game a few weeks ago was extremely impressive.