*** iPhone 5S/5C - September 10th ***

I wonder where Jonny Ive got his *inspiration* for his *cutting edge* design, Hmmmmmmmm?

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Robbo said:
I bought an S4 a few weeks ago, as I fancied one. I don't think it's better than my iPhone 5 (at all), nor do I think Android is better.

I'll keep this short and sweet as I don't want this thread to be Apple v Android, as it always is, but these points need to be addressed. I prefer the iPhone 5 (and subsequently the 5S) because:

  • It's faster at almost everything in real use
  • It's more stable, and in my experience crashes occur far less frequently, you don't get to get rogue apps popping up that will flatten your battery
  • The apps are better. I use Twitter a lot on my phone and there isn't a single Android Twitter app that is fit to lick the boots of TweetBot
  • It's easier to handle due to the size, this is preference and could be a positive or a negative, I don't mind either way personally
  • I like using iMessage and I like the integrated way it works, as most of my family have iPhones

Now of course, this won't apply to everyone, but it's very much all valid. I think iOS 7 is just as good as Android, yes it's directly less capable, but capability isn't everything. Things like widgets aren't generally of great importance, I found myself putting them there for the sake of it, rather than because they're actually useful.
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I have not used an iphone 5 but i have and use a iphone 4s and my s4 is comparable speed-wise to the iphone 4s.

i do like a bigger screen that the s4 provides for obvious reasons but what i like about s4 is that it is more customisable and the widget i find absolutely useful. i do not have to launch an app to read my emails or tweeter/FB feeds as i have widgets there already that displays me important content.

Ironicaly my family and friends are mostly using android devices so using google hangouts is great!

Also many use whatsapp which can work in whatever OS you use so i dont think iMessag or even google hangouts has a tramendous advantage over the over.

WhatsApp is good enough!
 
Brenn47 said:
I wonder where Jonny Ive got his *inspiration* for his *cutting edge* design, Hmmmmmmmm?

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That looks more revolutionary then the iphone 5s/5c :D:D

Anyways lets hope that iphone 6 will show some decent features.

i would like to see a bigger screen for iphone 6 and redesign of the ui. Also improve battery tech if possible.
 
RTM'd, enough of this tripe.

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So just looking at Vodafone's 4G Red plans currently available, and the prices based on the existing 5 and I think a lot of people are going to be spitting feathers when the plans are announced. There's either going to be a massive outlay, or the monthly cost is going to be daft.

Apple seem to be pushing pre-orders through carriers, which in turn carriers will use to upsell to 4G contracts... Not cool.

Even if buying it off contract costs more over 2 years, I'm still tempted to go that way so I'm not railroaded into a contract I won't get the most out of.

Hmm.
 
jonneymendoza said:
I have not used an iphone 5 but i have and use a iphone 4s and my s4 is comparable speed-wise to the iphone 4s.
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Compare the specs of the iPhone 4S and the Galaxy S4 and then try and understand why the underlying hardware specs aren't the be all and end all.

jonneymendoza said:
Also many use whatsapp which can work in whatever OS you use so i dont think iMessag or even google hangouts has a tramendous advantage over the over.

WhatsApp is good enough!
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WhatsApp, I felt, has always looked terrible. The interface just isn't clean and as nice an experience to use. Kik IMO has a better layout but for some reason that isn't as popular...
 
Wouldn't it be great if you could buy the phone and choose whatever OS you wanted.

I'd love a Samsung 4 but hate Google would love Samsung phone with IOS7 :(

Perhaps we can get the EC to change it like MS so they are not allowed to force a software on you.... :)

For the future perhaps.
 
Thinking about going for the white/silver option. I think it suits iOS 7 better.

Plus, it'll look nicer in the new lightning dock. :)
 
ShortWarning said:
What I what I really don't get is their pricing strategy for 5c/5s. They seem to have priced the 5c out of the market.

If you're buying outright and already spending that much on a phone, why would you not pay the extra £70 for a substantially better phone (at least in perceived quality)?

Also because the prices are so similar I'd imagine the contracts will be the same price but you have to pay slightly more upfront for the 5s.

I personally would have preferred them to just do what they normally do, keep the last generation of iPhone and stick it at around £429.

The pricing just seems so backwards.
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I suppose it depends on how you look at it, if you (as many others) were expecting a cheap model to try and capture as much market share in developing markets (i.e. China, India etc) then yes this has missed that price point.

On the other hand if you consider Apple has made its success from high profit margins and this model is attempting to capture just below the top end it starts to make more sense. Being a bit negative about it they would have been selling the iPhone 5 in its place and instead they've made the 5 look like a new model while cutting their costs and asking a pretty high price for it.

I would not be surprised if they'll make more money from each 5C sold than 5S.
 
randal said:
RTM'd, enough of this tripe.
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As I said a couple of pages back, the problem is that a thread in the mobiles section got merged with this thread, resorting in a forward link where all the Fandroids are coming from to troll.

Bad mistake IMO.
 
Skyboat said:
Just finished watching the video.

Quite like this quote from Tim Cook near the end:


What he means is that Apple don't pack in long list of comprehensive features just so it looks more impressive on paper, but they're added for a reason.
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You've fallen for their marketing, unless you truly believe Apple is the only company adding features for a reason or that their reasons are better.
 
No interest in the iPhone but very disappointed they didn't include NFC because very few businesses currently use it and most appear to be waiting on Apple before it becomes mainstream :(

As for the iPhone, I'm also surprised IEEE 802.11ac isn't supported.
 
Skyboat said:
Compare the specs of the iPhone 4S and the Galaxy S4 and then try and understand why the underlying hardware specs aren't the be all and end all.



WhatsApp, I felt, has always looked terrible. The interface just isn't clean and as nice an experience to use. Kik IMO has a better layout but for some reason that isn't as popular...
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i quite like the whatsApp ui. its clean and does the job. each to there own but is that not great that we have options?

another reason i favour android OS is i have more options to customise the look and feel of the OS.
 
I love my 5, and no doubt I'll love my 5S, but the biggest annoyance is that Vodafone don't offer 4G in my area yet, and it looks like there is no way to bump up to 4G.
 
Skyboat said:
WhatsApp, I felt, has always looked terrible. The interface just isn't clean and as nice an experience to use. Kik IMO has a better layout but for some reason that isn't as popular...
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Yep, WhatsApp is horrible. Viber is much better overall.
 
I don't understand why Apple get their own forum and threads whereas all other mobile manufacturers are lumped together? All that means is that we can't talk about comparisons as we're "fanboys" or "trolls"....everyone in the mobile section gets along, be it talking about WP8 or Android, why is Apple so exclusive in that regard?

Anyway, I'm no Apple fan, don't understand the hype but the 5S certainly looks like a decent enough phone and if you're upgrading from a 4S or something then it looks to be a good leap, but from a 5 not so much. I personally like a large screen which rules it out for me, plus IOS seems a bit stale, however I haven't tried 7 yet so I'm open to change :)
 
DeathStorm said:
You've fallen for their marketing, unless you truly believe Apple is the only company adding features for a reason or that their reasons are better.
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Where did I say they were the only company :confused:

I'm not disagreeing with you when you say there are other companies that also add features for a reason. Some don't, however. Some just think bigger numbers are better. Like Samsung.
 
thecremeegg said:
I don't understand why Apple get their own forum and threads whereas all other mobile manufacturers are lumped together? All that means is that we can't talk about comparisons as we're "fanboys" or "trolls"....everyone in the mobile section gets along, be it talking about WP8 or Android, why is Apple so exclusive in that regard?

Anyway, I'm no Apple fan, don't understand the hype but the 5S certainly looks like a decent enough phone and if you're upgrading from a 4S or something then it looks to be a good leap, but from a 5 not so much. I personally like the large screen which rules it out for me, plus IOS seems a bit stale, however I haven't tried 7 yet so I'm open to change!
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Good point actually.

So far i have not seen any trolling at all here? Everyone has got along perfectly fine.
 
Alpherah said:
There were loads of people at my Uni who were stating they "cant wait until a company launch a 7" phone so i wont need a tablet anymore".

Screen size is starting to get rather silly.
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It's the reason i got my Note II. And i have to say it has abated my need for a tablet. After fixing the DPI on the screen i really don't feel the need for a tablet as the N2 coupled with a bluetooth headset is just so damn convenient and cool.

If Apple releases a 6" iPhone with retina display and a revamped OS with Widgets, then i would be interested in an iPhone product for the first time ever. Until then i'm looking at the very sexy N3. Apple won't release a phablet until 2017 at the current rate :(
 
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