If Valve made an Operating System for gaming would you switch from Windows?

If valve made an operating system, Would I use it for gaming... Hmm..

I probably would. I'm not saying it would be my only operating system. But if I knew I could dual boot into valve OS, access all my steam catalogue and run the games within an operating system designed purely for those games with minimal overhead.

Well, You'd be daft not to.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Snip..Buy a AMD pc without the extra £100 tacked on for an MS OS... so PC's just got £100 cheaper..Snip
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There's so many holes and assumptions in this post i don't even know here to start. Having said that given a copy of Windows 8 OEM on media costs £62 for a single copy to a consumer from OCUK what makes you think any serious OEM pays £100 for a copy? I'd be surprised if someone like HP, Dell etc pay more than £30 tops per (medialess) image installed.

Not trying to change your mind or debate it with you as you're clearly on an Anti MS OS roll so i doubt it would go anywhere, each to their own.

I've said this before but apparently Valve want to break the closed system gaming monopoly by, err, releasing a console locked to playing games bought from, umm, Steam.. Okie Dokie.. :) Gabe had a big fat paddy when W8 was released with a store as it had the potential for a competing digital distribution store for Windows games he didn't control. Waddya know, all of a sudden Windows and Windows gamers are the enemy and Linux and console style gaming is the future. A platform he had previously ignored whilst he milked Windows gamers with closed conditions like being unable to get a refund for a game or sell the games you purchased through steam on second hand (a restriction not even Playstation or Xbox has).

It's nothing to do with "open" this or "best for gamers " that, it's about money, just like Sony, MS, and pretty much any other "gaming" company.

To answer the original post. Dunno - being a part time geek I'm sure I would have a look at a Valve Linux fork but fundamentally don't see the point particularly for gaming. I'd be happy to see any real, verified, credible benchmarks that show a modern AAA title game bench marked on identical well configured hardware with Windows 7 running up to date drivers vs a Linux build. I'm not talking some 6 year old hardware strapped PC here, a mainstream core i5 based PC with 4GB RAM+ and a GPU from ATI/Nvidia last two generations. In effect a realistic gamers PC. So far anything I've seen about claims that Linux runs games faster seems solely based on low power ancient PCs more suited to someones parents for email and "a bit of internet shopping" than to be used by a gamers.
 
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this crossed my mind a few weeks ago...

if they:

- licensed Direct X from microsoft (I see this being the hardest bit)
- made friends with EA/Origin , UPLAY etc etc (there would always be the odd game that wasn't on steam!)
- GPU manufacturers put as much effort into driver performance as they do for windows versions
- either a built in media player + web browser + voip and so on, or compatible with open source ones such as MPC-HC, firefox etc (which to be fair would almost be a given, as would probably be linux derivitive!)

then it could maybe take off. would still questions around virus vunerabilities and so on.

personally, I think a more pragmatic approach would be for Gabe and other game industry giants to pressure M$ towards a cut down, gamer orientated release of windows (hell if it was M$ doing it, they could maybe even make it able to play xbox games, which in my mind would give a fair kick to the sony camp!)

also, while it may seem fairly simple from a consumer point, security (https, SSL etc.)is a big part of the work that goes into maintaining windows, so would need some heavy assurance before making secure payments over it and so on!

for me, if there WAS such an OS, I wouldn't replace windows with it, as I use my computer for so many other things (music creation, photo editing, occasional programming), but would consider a dual boot if it made performance sense, however, it would definitely help to have a cheaper/free option when trying to convert my console loving friends to PC ;)

I would like to echo Macro's sentiment that Gabe IS out to make money, and not doing it solely for the love of us gamers!
 
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Not much interest or speculation going on in this thread.

Considering it 8 hours till the first announcement, I would have thought this thread would have been bigger.
 
If its good, then maybe. I won't change for the sake of switching though.


The other unknown in this argument is what Microsoft are going to do with their Xbox OS. With the XBone, it won't take much further work to get it working on Desktop...
 
leaskovski said:
Not much interest or speculation going on in this thread.

Considering it 8 hours till the first announcement, I would have thought this thread would have been bigger.
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Because the OP for what ever reason put "would switch from Windows over to a Valve based OS on your desktops" when it's not.

It should be is anyone going to buy a Steam Box?
 
wannabedamned said:
If valve made an operating system, Would I use it for gaming... Hmm..

I probably would. I'm not saying it would be my only operating system. But if I knew I could dual boot into valve OS, access all my steam catalogue and run the games within an operating system designed purely for those games with minimal overhead.

Well, You'd be daft not to.
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Sounds like a lot of effort for nothing. No way i would dual boot. Whats the pint, this isnt 1998 when we have pu ny amounts of ram and slow CPUs, Os is goinng to make sod all difference. The biggest factor will be driver optimisation which windows would almost certainly have the edge. U nless they went console route, but then thats not pc gaming and a lot of gamers like latest tech.


Judgeneo said:
The other unknown in this argument is what Microsoft are going to do with their Xbox OS. With the XBone, it won't take much further work to get it working on Desktop...
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There long term plan is to have one OS on all platforms, meaning one set of APIs and so none of this devlop 3 or so times, dev lop once, deploy to any platform for content creators.
 
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I would switch over if I can run a virtualised instance of Windows within that Linux instance. I have lots of applications that have no Linux equivalent.

However, none of the applications I need in Windows need native hardware video acceleration, so running it in a virtualised instance would offer the best of both worlds.
 
If Valve sort out the driver issues and manage to persuade some of the other main larger developers/publishers to develop games for Linux (probably a long way off if it ever happens) I would drop Windows...

But I'd much rather run a Linux distro of my choosing and install Steam on it to play games, rather than using a Valve designed derivative - just because I wouldn't want to be restricted by whatever they deem to be the best setup
 
In SteamOS, we have achieved significant performance increases in graphics processing, and we’re now targeting audio performance and reductions in input latency at the operating system level. Game developers are already taking advantage of these gains as they target SteamOS for their new releases.
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Awesome, bet all the neigh sayers from this thread will soon be running SteamOS :rolleyes:.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
Awesome, bet all the neigh sayers from this thread will soon be running SteamOS :rolleyes:.
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It's a great quote with absolutely no facts behind it to back it up :) It doesn't even say compared to what, faster than other Linux distros? the first builds of "SteamOS"? IOS? Android? My smart TV? The washing machine? :)

I smell marketing BS ;) :D
 
A valve/steam os.

Nothing more than a shop window for the're product id imagine. I like the old windows, aka my ****.

My desktop:)
 
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Awesome, bet all the neigh sayers from this thread will soon be running SteamOS :rolleyes:.
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Or not, that doesnt make an Os and i also bet its Marketing Bs. A few frames doesn't make it worth switching an Os esepeically with all the other downsides. Then theres the fact i very much doubt theyve got drivers more effecient tobegin with.
 
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