FIFA 14

[qotsa]

I do think Fifa goes through periods of making you play badly though, or at least where the ball seems to bounce favourably for your opponent. I noticed it last night, twice losing games late on with goals that should've been cleared properly, but weren't. I just try to stop playing when I see it happening so I don't lose my rag too much.

This too, sometimes you do just get screwed a few times in a row and it's totally out of your hands. Look at my posts a few pages back. I was raging cos I lost 3 games in a row, opposition goalkeeper got 10.00, 9.9, and 9.8 in 3 consecutive games. Man, I was mad.

And then I went and spent the most amount of coins I've spent on a player so far, on a goalkeeper.

 

[Suarez7]

Someone did find something in the PC code that suggests there is some level of scripting, things like momentum changing especially towards the end of the game which I'm sure we've all noticed. There's ways to deal with it, if you're winning simply get better at keeping possession towards the end of the game even if it means passing it around your defense for the last few minutes.

 

[Snot man]

Nah but really, I don't really think it exists either tbh. People just go on a losing streak, or lose a bit more than they normally would, then rage sell their team and blame it on handicap. In reality if they would've just played a few more games it would've been fine.

The biggest variable is definitely the skill of the person playing, not the skill of the players they are using.

Haha, yeah I realised afterwards I contradicted myself a little bit. Point still stands

 

[Davey_Pitch]

Someone did find something in the PC code that suggests there is some level of scripting, things like momentum changing especially towards the end of the game which I'm sure we've all noticed. There's ways to deal with it, if you're winning simply get better at keeping possession towards the end of the game even if it means passing it around your defense for the last few minutes.

That doesn't surprise me though, as it's pretty true to real football. Look at last night's match between Everton and Newcastle for evidence of that. Everton should've been miles ahead but allowed Newcastle back in, and at the end were holding on a bit. Everton were streets ahead of Newcastle but the momentum was with Newcastle and they nearly snatched an undeserved draw. It happens in real football, I don't see why it shouldn't happen in Fifa.

 

[Kavalree]

I would have moaned to the heavens about handicap early this week, but I realized where I was going wrong, and now, my 82 rated full French team is running rampant.

I did however let this awesome feeling slip and let a Bronze/Silver/Gold 30 chem 3 star team score 2 against me...I did however come back with a quick sub and formation change (Matuidi off for Cisse and 4-1-2-1-2 from 4-2-3-1) and scored 5...

 

[Snot man]

I did however let this awesome feeling slip and let a Bronze/Silver/Gold 30 chem 3 star team score 2 against me...I did however come back with a quick sub and formation change (Matuidi off for Cisse and 4-1-2-1-2 from 4-2-3-1) and scored 5...

I'm finding that some formations counter others way more this year than previous years. If you're finding yourself getting hammered at half time - can't keep possession/not making chances etc - change formation, it's worked wonders for me.

 

[Suarez7]

That doesn't surprise me though, as it's pretty true to real football. Look at last night's match between Everton and Newcastle for evidence of that. Everton should've been miles ahead but allowed Newcastle back in, and at the end were holding on a bit. Everton were streets ahead of Newcastle but the momentum was with Newcastle and they nearly snatched an undeserved draw. It happens in real football, I don't see why it shouldn't happen in Fifa.

I know, I like the feature to be honest as like you said it adds realism, it can be annoying when you're battering someone though and all of a sudden nothing goes your way and your players cant even make the simplest of passes as the momentum is with them and they close everything down so quickly. If I notice this happen I just grab the ball and pass it backwards to try and take the momentum out of their hands if that's even possible.

 

[Rusty0611]

That doesn't surprise me though, as it's pretty true to real football. Look at last night's match between Everton and Newcastle for evidence of that. Everton should've been miles ahead but allowed Newcastle back in, and at the end were holding on a bit. Everton were streets ahead of Newcastle but the momentum was with Newcastle and they nearly snatched an undeserved draw. It happens in real football, I don't see why it shouldn't happen in Fifa.

I'd prefer the game to just my skill and players vs somebody elses skill and players. The difference in getting the game to automate momentum switching even when you're hammering someone is just wrong and annoying. I was good enough in 13 to hold out most of the time when it swung but in 14 it's killing me. Had it go in my favour for the first time in 14 last night. Was crazy how easy it was to score all of a sudden.

I think the momentum thing is what everyone is referring to when relating to 'scripting' - my friend is convinced the game is singling him out individually . Of course thinking like that means you're automatically not going to play the game properly as you're angry.

 

[Adsta]

I would have moaned to the heavens about handicap early this week, but I realized where I was going wrong, and now, my 82 rated full French team is running rampant.

I think that is the main thing. Different players and different formations play well differently. I have a feeling a lot of the people moaning and whining about handicaps don't take the time to learn a formation get used to the way certain players make runs or don't in some cases.

Last year I was very much of the sort of chopping and changing teams/formations constantly and never really getting good at anything. This year I have stuck with my Serie A 41212(2) and hardly made any changes (one change of a CAM and ST) and I have got a feel for the formation now. I can almost predict where my players will be or how they will react. Ok granted sometimes you go to make a pass and it doesn't go anywhere near where you wanted it to go but meh that happens just deal with it and recover from it.
My BPL 433 (false 9) I was having up's and downs with it but I'm getting better with it and getting used to the players in my team. I've had a couple of games with it where I raged and was on the brink of rage selling the team but I've stuck with it and beginning to get quite good with them.

The only thing that annoys me still from time to time is the crossing/heading issue at the moment. But to be honest if you find an opponent constantly spamming passes to the wings to attempt to cross. Get on that stop them from getting into a position to cross. Change formation or change a custom tactic to make your formation play wider.

Things are going to slip you cannot be 100% perfect all the time.

 

[Davey_Pitch]

I'm finding that some formations counter others way more this year than previous years. If you're finding yourself getting hammered at half time - can't keep possession/not making chances etc - change formation, it's worked wonders for me.

Yup, did the same last night. Got battered first half, 2-0 down, so changed from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-2-1-2 and scored 3 in 15 minutes. Shame he got 2 in the last 10, but the game was so much more even after I changed formations.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

if there's no handicap, please explain why people use silver teams then in the high divisions?

it's so obvious.

i mean why do i instantly start playing 10 times better with lower rated player's in certain positions where you can get away with lower rated players to bring the overall squad rating down to 4.5 star?

the passing is the most obvious one when there's handicap in motion, the other team cannot string passes together and my player's win every 50/50.

players score ridiculous shots, Guarin is playing 10 times better than Hamsik for instance, making assists and scoring long shots for fun.

Hamsik was never on the ball when i had him, he just never got into the game, constantly in the wrong place, etc.

for people who do not think a handicap exists build this team 41212 (all my teams are this formation) with LM and RM's instead of CAM's.

Benteke -- Kone

Jarvis -- Diaby -- Mirallas

--------- Sissokho------

Santon -- Vertonghen (sentinel) - Verma (sentinel) -- Rafael

-------------- begovic (glove)

now play against 5 star rated teams (rated higher than 80 overall so 81+) and see how their passing, tackling, ball control is terrible.

i mean every time i play a 5 star team now the number of loose passes i pick up is ridiculous.

my other teams are

-------- Aduriz -- Costa

Guardado -- Rakitic -- Feghouli

------------ Song

Eliseu -- Godin (Anchor) -- Pepe (sentinel) -- Gamez

------------ Courtois

and


------- Gomez --- IF Milito

Lulic -------- Guarin ------ Candreva

------------- nocerino

Radu -- Campagnaro - Benatia -- Konko

--------------- Handonavic (glove)


i'm also building brazil, bundesliga and france team and have players like Dante, Miranda, Varane, etc, so i'm not short of coins as you can see to upgrade the above.

but i honestly believe 4.5 star teams are given a boost to beat 5 star teams with ease.

have none of you played against a silver team yet? it's like an uphill battle against 22 players.

 

[Soulja]

There is without a doubt a handicap in this game. It's been obvious now for the past 3 or 4 Fifa's.

 

[Suarez7]

There is without a doubt a handicap in this game. It's been obvious now for the past 3 or 4 Fifa's.

Well there we have it, seems legit based on this evidence. Oh wait.

 

[Snot man]

I've played against 1 silver team in FIFA 14, and yes I got beat - but there were no stray passes or anything like that, the guy just totally outplayed me.

I used a silver team in 13 and entered gold cups. Why? Because it's fun to try and beat people with a higher rated team, you feel absolutely zero pressure. Lose? No problem, he had a way better team, you expected to lose! Win? Awesome, you beat a way better team.

Psychologically, it's a win/win.

 

[Adsta]

fml people with the ZOMG HANDICAP THERES A HANDICAP !!!!!

If you dont like it GTFO already seriously. Its the same every year. Why continually play a game if you are convinced there is a handicap yet still carry on to play and moan and play and whine. There is no merit behind anything that has been said so far other than I have X team why does Y team play better ?!?!?! maybe workrates are better maybe stats are better maybe the formation you are playing are more suited to the players. Maybe you just suck at fifa ?!

 

[Davey_Pitch]

fml people with the ZOMG HANDICAP THERES A HANDICAP !!!!!

If you dont like it GTFO already seriously. Its the same every year. Why continually play a game if you are convinced there is a handicap yet still carry on to play and moan and play and whine. There is no merit behind anything that has been said so far other than I have X team why does Y team play better ?!?!?! maybe workrates are better maybe stats are better maybe the formation you are playing are more suited to the players. Maybe you just suck at fifa ?!

Or maybe Fifa is like real life, where you have good days and you have bad days. Heaven forbid people who think they are good at something actually lose now and then. It must be the handicap!

 

[Psycho Sonny]

fml people with the ZOMG HANDICAP THERES A HANDICAP !!!!!

If you dont like it GTFO already seriously. Its the same every year. Why continually play a game if you are convinced there is a handicap yet still carry on to play and moan and play and whine. There is no merit behind anything that has been said so far other than I have X team why does Y team play better ?!?!?! maybe workrates are better maybe stats are better maybe the formation you are playing are more suited to the players. Maybe you just suck at fifa ?!

i haven't lost a game yet with my 4.5 star team.

so i'm not crap at the game.

i'm complaining because for once, i would like to build a decent team, instead of being restricted to 80 overall.

because if i build a team rated higher than 80, all my player's instantly go from being on cocaine and steroids to player's who feel like they are playing on the graves of their dead children.

anyway i'm happy to keep beating teams worth 500K+ with my 40K teams.

 

[NorthstaNder]

Going off on a tangent for a second...

Just picked Weidenfeller with a 79 game contract for 4,600

Am chuffed with that deal.

 

[Suarez7]

There's also the factor people try a lot harder against you when they see you have a good team, when they see low rated golds most of them expect it to be a walkover.

I noticed this a lot last year, people would play like absolute ***** against my TOTS/IF team.

 

[Metalface Mark]

People spend a lot of money on the game, if they can find an excuse why they get beat its a better option than they just need to improve there game. I know myself Im average at the game, I play better against better players as I try harder, i muck around a lot against worse players so I end up winning games I should lose and vice versa.

I cant say Ive ever really noticed a handicap, certainly Ive noticed momentum change as matches progress which does tend to mirror real life matches in a lot of occasion.