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Nearly a decade after quitting smoking in September this year i joined the ranks of vapists in an attempt to get my long craved nicotine fix and shed some of the weight I gained over the years without creating as much destruction to my lungs. I decided to use uneducated fix of low nicotine, high flavour solution to control "munchies" after vivid recollection on how I could go on with single meals and pack a day throughout my student and early adulthood years. So far, so questionable, but it seems to work as expected. I effortlessly shed 7kg across 6 weeks without feeling particularly hungry or angry, with itaste MVP as a handy tool to achieve some instant zen carried with me at all times.

That said however, I found technological aspect of vaping frustrating to say the least. The following are my notes:

- Whichever of you motherlovers decided to start using essences that make plastics brittle and whichever manufacturer decided to keep making their POS atomizers, clearomizers, whathaveyoumizers from plasitic that reacts to self implosion with chemicals used in vaping juices, both of you need to be shot. You motherlovers owe me at least 5 atoclearowhathaveyoumizers and at least two bottles of juice, two washing cycles and dry cleaning bill for my wool jumper. It's also fantastic advertisement to anyone who considers picking up vaping as a method to give up smoking. Try having "do you mean to tell me the juice you put in your lungs eats through plastics?!!!" in public places several times a month you extrement eating, cheapskate penny pinchers. Stop it. Stop the madness now. I'm looking at you joose-juice, I'm looking at you vivi nova V-core 2.0. I'm looking at you Kanger MT3. Tank makers. Stop making polycarbonate tanks. If not because of cracking then because of BPA. It's really bad for us. It's illegal to use in some countries by now. And it's highly reactive, as you can see from reaction with some juices. WTF is wrong with you?
Juice makers. Stop using benzyl acetate based flavourings in such high ratios that they react with plastics. Yes, they have food industry approval, but if you already concentrated it to the point where people mail you with reports of it melting through 2mm tops of their Kangers, you have probably gone several times over safe consumption limits. Stop it. WTF is wrong with you?

- The tech is nowhere near consumer ready. It's a comedy of alpha testing. You buy pack of three iclear 16's, two are nice and tight, the third has a thread that keeps on rotating on the mount. You buy pack of two X10 protanks, one needs chernobyl powerstation voltage to get going, the other has thread quarter of a mm too short to make a contact with plate on standardised mount and fire up at all. You buy a pack of two EGO pens, one works for 2 minutes and charges every second time, the other works for 30 minutes but loses charge within 48 hours even when off/not used. You buy pack of two iClear 30's, one makes slurping noise like sucking on a straw in empty milkshake tub, the other leaks from the mount hole all over the table. You pack of two Kanger Pro Tank II's and one takes forever to get going on 4V, the other is harsh like swallowing Wilkinson's Sword finest on 3.4V. Then you have those shoddy silicons tops inside that make a loud pop every now and then and spit bubbles of juice back into your mouth on a second draw. Oh my god people. How hard hard is it to do your measurements precise and make this tech less embarrassing to use. Amateur hour. This stuff ain't cheap. Stop the madness.

- E-liquids. Juices. Man, oh man alive. Can we just please agree to stop using cheapest off the shelf cake flavourings for stuff that we inhale? Prime example - irish cream flavours. Everyone use the same terrible Enumbernumber stuff that tastes like Monin Coffee syrups. Just buy a bottle of Baileys and see what it supposed to taste like. Try separate ingredients instead of off the shelf flavour. Dekang. Stop. Just stop. It's quite clear alcohols are not your forte. Vaping King, darling, yours is miles better than anyone else's so far but double choco cream tasting of spearmint? Really? What metrosexual bar do you get your cocktails at? Joose Juice, Irish Coffee is not supposed to taste like anti freeze. And while we at Joose Juice. I liked their cheesecake flavour but something is reacting badly in Joose Juice nuts favours. I had pecan, and two pistachio samples from them, within two weeks they all taste like licking insides of old hoover bag. Pina Colada sample bottle after a month smells like pipe cleaner. I'm not brave enough to even try it. Alchemist Cupboard. Probably best flavours so far. Gran's Trickle Tart, Chocolate Peanut Butter Cookie, American Apple Pie, their banana thing, all were good, but the samplers only come in maximum strength. Whoompf enducing and trippy stuff. Few puffs on empty stomach on my way to work in the morning and I swear I can hear radio traffic at Heathrow Flight Control tower and my eyes are glowing in the dark. Love the taste, but I have to mix Chocolate Peanut Butter with some 0 strength caramel. All I'm saying is - it's a 10ml sampler - roll out some strengths for regular people or it might be difficult for some of us to come back to your till in one piece.

And then there is the lack of info. Oh my god. It's worse than overclocking in early 2000's. I couldn't possibly even start without this forum and this thread from first page to the last. You need to take time off, embark on days of research and submerge in geekiness of epic proportions to complete the quest with right equipment the first time around. Threads, sizes, types, mizer this, mizer that, battery number differences of one digit, ohmometers involved, "Samsung Galaxy" like model assignment malarky, you buy one iClear and one Pro Tank, then second iClear and second Pro Tank, they are all different animals, in different shape and size, one with wicks one without, one with metal tip, one with plastic, one with sticky surface, one with wings to attach to underwear (oh, what's my wives shopping list doing in my notes?). Oh, and the next a-hole to call anything Vivi Nova something, I swear I'm going to take a large battery modding device and whack you across your Ego stick so hard you will see your first pack of cigarettes iClearly.

I seem to have gone all Lewis Black on this thing, let me retire for short vaping session. ;)

lmao- epic post and welcome aboard. Now how do you know what licking the inside of an old hoover bag tastes like? :p
 
Pulled apart an old iclear 30 head today and played around with trying to re-coil it, damn its fiddly as hell and a lot smaller than I thought, not sure about getting an rsst now.

On a good note, I think I've found an all day vape, VK's Yorkshire fog, what an amazing juice :D
 
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Hmm...something not quite right on my RSST...built another good looking coil, comes out at 1.6 Ohm. Smokes nicely without the top-cap, but when I inhale with the top-cap, I get next to no vapor and I gag...strange...
 
I would be trading him so its not really much of a loss to me.[/lol TE]

I have noticed the bagua are being shifted rapid lately. That tells me they are not very good lol

Its not about very good they are top quality products which are very expensive normally :) on the level of paps and higher.

The thing which Redmogg mentioned is why people are flogging em.
 
The Ti22 BaGua is a stunning bit of kit - in fact, every Yellowkiss mod & Atty I have had the opportunity to play with has been incredibly well made and silky smooth threads...
But if people are flogging them due to parroting someone's disgust at the "copying" of a fairly standard design component (after all, there's only a few ways of achieving a particular purpose with that part of the mod), it's flooding the second hand market, which brings the over-inflated prices down and can only be a good thing for those of us who don't give a monkey's wossname about uniqueness and just want a quality, fairly priced mod...

I say go for it, but knock that price down - it's secondhand, after all! :p
 
I will try :P I will barter with him. Haha.

I explained the situation with Yellowkiss in an earlier post. Go have a read what's going on.

Since you're potentially buying a high end mod kit - the enthusiast forums determines their rarity, value and prestigiousness. At the moment regardless how well made a Ba Gua or Original Arrow was/is he is getting tarnished as a clone maker so naturally his products are being sold of by those who once considered them a prestigious kit or a mod maker with a good ethos and morals.

How does this affect you? They are coming down in price, you may as well get a cheap clone instead or use this to your advantage and have a browse how cheap recent ones went for by purchasing it cheaper.

I still think the original Arrow is a cracking genesis, shame it isn't 16mm.

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I wouldn't even know where to begin!

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VK's Yorkshire fog, what an amazing juice :D

I love it as well, not so keen on Monkey Jizz the banana tastes very artificial to me. I'm developing a preference for fruit/menthol combos which I never expected when I started vaping. So, if anyone has any good fruit/menthol combos they can suggest I try then I'd be pleased to hear them.

On another note, I took the plunge (well plunge for me!) and bought a vamo and protank 2 combo from from a local shop that's just opened. They were having a 20% off opening offer so I bought a kit that had the vamo (V2 I think), protank 2, 1 x 18350, 1 x 18650, and charger for £44. Vaping by wattage rules! :)
 
On another note, I took the plunge (well plunge for me!) and bought a vamo and protank 2 combo from from a local shop that's just opened. They were having a 20% off opening offer so I bought a kit that had the vamo (V2 I think), protank 2, 1 x 18350, 1 x 18650, and charger for £44. Vaping by wattage rules! :)

Wow... That's an extremely good price, its cheaper than Fasttech.
 
So, just rebuilt my Kayfun again, 1.6ohms, .25 Kanthal and 2ml Ekowool. Vapes and tastes great.

Only my 4th attempt so still learning.

Also, is there some kind of formula as to what ohms you get out of what wire and how many coils?

Opinions? :)

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So, just rebuilt my Kayfun again, 1.6ohms, .25 Kanthal and 2ml Ekowool. Vapes and tastes great.

Only my 4th attempt so still learning.

Also, is there some kind of formula as to what ohms you get out of what wire and how many coils?

Opinions? :)

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Tidy - but make sure that right hand end coil isn't touching the post.
The general rule (apologies for egg-sucking lesson) is: the thicker the wire (or lower AWG number) or the fewer turns in a coil, the lower the resistance...
The sweet spot I find is 1.3 Ohms, a Vamo has a 1.2 ohms minimum limit.
Depending on the Amp rating of your battery, you can go below 1.0 ohm on a mech mod - but anything under 0.8 is pushing your luck.
 
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