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Yes.
That's who they are trying to compete against so I would hope so.
You go and pay for overpriced machinery only built buy those manufacturers, since they cater for the willy wavers and snobs
What in god's name are you blabbering on about?
BMW and Mercedes (for example) make, on the whole, higher quality vehicles than Ford and Honda (for example). This extra quality comes at a price.
See also: Apple iPhone versus something like a Blackberry Bold. Saying the iPhone is overpriced and for snobs is a matter of opinion. It doesn't mean it isn't a better overall product.
, kind of backs up my point on the whole overpriced thing!How?
Let's take your shoddy example of the iPhone. We only have to compare the iPhone 5S against the Nexus 5 to show how overpriced a product it is.
Now lets compare a top of the range Ford Mondeo diesel to a top of the range Audi A4 diesel. The audi is overpriced, both do the same thing, yes ok, the Audi "has been put together better", but IN MY OPINION it's not worth the extra £££
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I've always been a JPN car fan and more specifically a Honda fan all me life. However I do like cars from other nations and brands and wouldn't restrict myself on where and what I buy, saying that I would find it hard not to buy a Japanese car or a Honda and I would probably find it hard to buy say a French car because of poor reliability.
There are some brands that just don't do anything for me and I find them characterless and morbid and I would probably never buy a model from them.
Also another point to make I find cars from the last 10 years really off putting, especially the last 5 years, they just don't do anything for me, they all looks horrible and feel horrible and break all the time. Too many electronics, too complicated and really fussy bloated designs, even with Honda's apart from the Accord none of the other models appeal to me. I prefer my older cars from the 80's and 90's, they were the golden era IMO.
There are some brands that just don't do anything for me and I find them characterless and morbid and I would probably never buy a model from them.
Also another point to make I find cars from the last 10 years really off putting, especially the last 5 years, they just don't do anything for me, they all looks horrible and feel horrible and break all the time. Too many electronics, too complicated and really fussy bloated designs, even with Honda's apart from the Accord none of the other models appeal to me. I prefer my older cars from the 80's and 90's, they were the golden era IMO.
Once you've had Jap you won't go back.
Unless work gives you a rubbish Mondeo which you can complain about every day
Sorry, married a Malaysian, but did try Japanese along the way and liked them a LOT.
Higher quality products tend to cost more money than cheaper-made, inferior products.
I'm not saying Honda and Ford don't make good cars because that's not true, but you can't argue that a 5 Series isn't overall a better car than a Mondeo, and a 1 Series isn't overall a better car than a Focus or a Civic.
An iPhone is not a higher quality product than a Nexus!
With Honda and Ford I feel you are getting value for money in the second hand market. With Audi/BMW/Merc you are paying for the badge.
Also I'd have a Civic over a 1 series even if they were the same price
, the 1 series is a shocking car, I presume you've never actually driven one...
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Ross you are forgetting that Fords smell horrible though mate.
Another point for the Audi.
Higher quality in what way though? An iPhone doesn't cost much more than a Blackberry to build, how they price the item is another matter entirely, and one thing for sure is that Apple products are massively over priced.
Pricing is usually down to the product itself and the brand. The likes of BMW and Mercedes can charge much more for their products because of their brand, they are perceived as a premium brand and people are willing to pay more for the brand. That does not make their products superior to other cheaper ones.
I would agree that a lot of the products by the likes of Audi, Merc and BMW are over priced, you compare a base spec Merc C Class to say a Ford Mondeo, and what you get for your money is a hug difference, I would easily have the Mondeo, as I don't see the Merc superior in anyway apart from putting your keys on the table in the pub to show people how "successful" you are.
Even if you move down a scale and onto VW who are just a standard mainstream manufacturer their products tend to be more expensive then some of their rival brands from other nations, all because of the badge it has on the front that allows it to charge a premium for its products, whists in reality the product is not superior than some of its rivals.
Even if you move up the scales and onto the performance models, they can fall short, you just need to compare the Nissan GT-R to some of its German competitors, and the latter starts to look over priced.
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10/10 for turning this into an iPhone vs whatever thread.
If you can't see the quality difference between an Audi A4 and Mondeo then i think your need your head checking.
If you can't see the quality difference between an Audi A4 and Mondeo then i think your need your head checking.
Since when was that the point? My whole point has been my preference towards Ford and Honda is based on they make very good cars for a reasonable price. Yes Audi/BMW/Merc make better quality cars, but at such a higher cost to the buyer.
For £10k you can get a top of the range 3 year old Mondeo with sat nav, cruise, auto lights, climate control, cruise control, half leather/alcantara seats. Find me a 3 year old BMW/Merc/Audi with the same spec less than 3 years old...
My point is also backed up by the amount of bog standard 1 and 3 series on the M1. My brother picked a 118 SE with no extra options over a fully specced Mondeo Titanium. Because of the badge.
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Mondeos depreciate heavily, more so than anything German. So why are we using this as a benchmark on quality? If you spend 10k on a Mondeo that could quickly turn to 5 grand in a couple of years anyway. Someone considering a BMW or Audi wouldn't even contemplate a Mondeo, that's just how it is.
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Again quality in what way? and does it justify the massive price difference? There is more to a car then the materials used in the interior.
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What do you mean, 'quality in what way'? The plastics feel and look nicer, the trim is of better quality, typically instead of cheap plastic 'metal look' trim items, they could use real metal, better quality leather, better quality feeling switches, a neater looking and better functioning dash i.e. control layouts, probably a quiter cabin when on the motorway.
The list is endless, and tbh the Mondeo isn't exactly cheap ourdays.
Why?
Considerably cheaper than it's German equivalents.
Ford Mondeo entry level is £15,995
Audi A4 entry level is £23,960
£8k for better quality plastics!
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