lol tvlicensing

[Glaucus]

Putt he payment plan shows the double payment for six months then the normal payment for like ever, so yes I am paying more in the first six months, there's no break I'm payments, like you get with water etc paying 12 in 10months

Oh god, how do you not get it.
You dont get a break when you pay rent for a house a month in advance.
When you come to cancel your tv license you will have paid up a further 6months. Meaning you can keep a license without paying for 6months or get a refund.
You are not being over charged, you are just paying in advance.

 

[panyan]

Well i can say it gets you very far from first hand experience, you might want to watch this video

that is fantastic

 

[asim18]

I lolled when it said "Dear Sir/Madam".


Write a response signed "Yours sincerely, sir/madam".

 

[spoffle]

The rest of his post wasn't bad - just that line went a bit freeman of the land/conspiraloon-ish

I must be blind because I can't see that bit.

What was bad was the constant "your" and "act's", someone needs to learn how apostrophes and contractions work.

 

[chanjy]

Also the "lied on oaf" phrase made me lol

 

[MrMoonX]

Oh god, how do you not get it.
You dont get a break when you pay rent for a house a month in advance.
When you come to cancel your tv license you will have paid up a further 6months. Meaning you can keep a license without paying for 6months or get a refund.
You are not being over charged, you are just paying in advance.

I really don't see the point in them doing this, I mean I bet almost no one cancels so they just hoard that six months up front and make interest on it, you should just be able to pay the £145/12

 

[MrMoonX]

Also the "lied on oaf" phrase made me lol

Me too rofl, also acts and statute are not law, errrrr wtf that is law you **** someone needs to go back to school!

 

[asim18]

oaf
noun. a man who is rough or clumsy and unintelligent.

 

[BDEE]

Well i can say it gets you very far from first hand experience, you might want to watch this video

that is fantastic

It really isn't. What a couple of morons.

Forget 100 TV's in the house, how about 100 tin foil hats?

Sounds like a house full of morons right there.

 

[Phantom Shadow]

But he payment plan shows the double payment for six months then the normal payment for like ever, so yes I am paying more in the first six months, there's no break in payments, like you get with water etc paying 12 in 10months

It does appear to be done in a strange way. Essentially you pay for the first year in the first 6 months, then you start paying for the next year so at the end of the year your account will be 6 months in credit. It then continues at the £12 a month keeping the account 6 months in credit until you either cancel or change to paying yearly in advance where you would then get this 6 months refunded.

It is done this way to protect the BBC from lost revenue in the case of people not completing 12 months of payments, as if you stop paying at any time after 6 months then they can just keep the relevant prepaid amount and not lose out.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Well i can say it gets you very far from first hand experience, you might want to watch this video

Haha owned.

TV license can shove it up their **** I don't do live TV and never will, purely because its NOT law and I will watch a recording made by someone else (catch up services which do not require a tv license) or buy the dvd after should I have a desire to watch anything.

It is corruption and it is a massive breach of UK basic rights, I won't say human rights as that is also a dumb 'law'.

 

[Business Man]

It really isn't. What a couple of morons.

Forget 100 TV's in the house, how about 100 tin foil hats?

Sounds like a house full of morons right there.

So I'm a moron because I don't watch TV you think I should let someone in to my home who

1) has no right to check if i watch one
2) a company who is known for employing criminals
3) cover up peado's
4) rig charity phone in's such as children in need

If i'm a moron then i'm a very clever one since i won the police over and i know the difference between common law, maybe you should read up on what the police's oath is and what it means instead of insulting people.

 

[Freddie1980]

Those 155k convictions I seem to recall where larely women who stayed at home while the husband was at work and naively let bbc agents into the house to check if the tv had a live broadcast being streamed to it. Most of them pleaded guilty and there were no convictions based on data collected from so call television detector equipment.

 

[Business Man]

Me too rofl, also acts and statute are not law, errrrr wtf that is law you **** someone needs to go back to school!

Maybe you should go back to school and read up on common law, Acts are NOT laws and can only be giving the force of law with your consent. In other words, it's a contract that you have the right to refuse to enter into.

TVL should be treated like parking tickets under county courts, its purely civil and not criminal. Would the police arrest you if you were watching TV with no licence ? NO because it isn't criminal!

The maximum penalty for watching a TV with no licence is a £1000 fine, you ONLY risk going to prison if you refuse to pay the fine. FACT!

I'm sure there are a couple of Police officers on this forum who will tell you the same, they will tell you what their oath is that they swore on at their attestation. They are not to be involved in civil matters, only criminal which i'm sure everyone would agree with.

 

[asim18]

Maybe you should go back to school and read up on common law, Acts are NOT laws and can only be giving the force of law with your consent. In other words, it's a contract that you have the right to refuse to enter into.

So wait a minute.

You're saying, for example, if I'm standing smoking a spliff in the street, and a police officer sees me, walks over, and wants to search me under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 because he has reasonable grounds to assume I'm in possession of a controlled drug as defined in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, I can simply refuse because I haven't signed a contract saying I agree with the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971?

What if I refuse the search and they proceed to arrest me on suspicion of possession of a controlled drug as defined in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, can I refuse to be arrested under this Act because I refuse to enter into a contract with the act?

 

[Business Man]

We are policed by consent, which is indicated when a copper reads you your rights OR asks you 'do you understand?'

Understand is synonymous with 'stand under'. So when they say do you 'understand' by replying 'yes' you are standing under 'their' rules.

By stating 'NO' I do not consent to 'your search' 'this arrest' 'the taking of DNA''Blood samples' or 'to be placed on any database' you then put them under strict oath, which is that unless you are committing a breach of the peace, committing harm or loss to an individual, they then have to stand under the oath they swore at their attestation to uphold common law, not statutes, not legislation, and certainly not what they have fabricated on the spot.

But the initial question was about the TV licence, its not against the law, it may well be against legislation, but is certainly not breaking the law.

A little like smoking on public transport, buses ect. it's not against the law, which is what all the signs state, it IS against legislation, and if you are caught then it will be legislation that they attempt to force on you first, then once they get Joinder (you confirming your name 'mr' mrs' miss' etc ) they are then able to use that legislation against you, because you have given it the force of law because you consented and we are governed.

Does that make sense??

 

[Business Man]

I've posted the video above as proof to backup my claims, if i were breaking the law then the police would have forced entry if the warrant was lawful. by refusing consent they can't do anything unless its common law, if they tried forcing their way in to your property even after refusing to consent it would be unlawful and they would face criminal charges. You don't have a contract with the bbc to have a licence.

The TVL authority are bullies and prey on the vulnerable who don't know their rights. I had to deal with one of these goons who were threatening a lady who only had a TV to watch dvd's. As soon as i corrected him on camera he soon scarped.

 

[Phil99]

We are policed by consent, which is indicated when a copper reads you your rights OR asks you 'do you understand?'

Understand is synonymous with 'stand under'. So when they say do you 'understand' by replying 'yes' you are standing under 'their' rules.

By stating 'NO' I do not consent to 'your search' 'this arrest' 'the taking of DNA''Blood samples' or 'to be placed on any database' you then put them under strict oath, which is that unless you are committing a breach of the peace, committing harm or loss to an individual, they then have to stand under the oath they swore at their attestation to uphold common law, not statutes, not legislation, and certainly not what they have fabricated on the spot.

But the initial question was about the TV licence, its not against the law, it may well be against legislation, but is certainly not breaking the law.

A little like smoking on public transport, buses ect. it's not against the law, which is what all the signs state, it IS against legislation, and if you are caught then it will be legislation that they attempt to force on you first, then once they get Joinder (you confirming your name 'mr' mrs' miss' etc ) they are then able to use that legislation against you, because you have given it the force of law because you consented and we are governed.

Does that make sense??

Do you have any examples of this working for people breaking more 'serious' acts such as the road traffic act or misuse of drugs act (as previously mentioned in this thread)?

 

[MrMoonX]

Maybe you should go back to school and read up on common law, Acts are NOT laws and can only be giving the force of law with your consent. In other words, it's a contract that you have the right to refuse to enter into.

TVL should be treated like parking tickets under county courts, its purely civil and not criminal. Would the police arrest you if you were watching TV with no licence ? NO because it isn't criminal!

The maximum penalty for watching a TV with no licence is a £1000 fine, you ONLY risk going to prison if you refuse to pay the fine. FACT!

I'm sure there are a couple of Police officers on this forum who will tell you the same, they will tell you what their oath is that they swore on at their attestation. They are not to be involved in civil matters, only criminal which i'm sure everyone would agree with.

Wtf! They are laws their is a distinction between common and criminal yes but equally they are still laws and you can't ignore common laws! And yes the police can ensure you comply with common law acts, the children's act, 1989 is an example where the police will give a local authority social worker access to your home to investigate your children without your consent

 

[bowey]

So wait a minute.

You're saying, for example, if I'm standing smoking a spliff in the street, and a police officer sees me, walks over, and wants to search me under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 because he has reasonable grounds to assume I'm in possession of a controlled drug as defined in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, I can simply refuse because I haven't signed a contract saying I agree with the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971?

What if I refuse the search and they proceed to arrest me on suspicion of possession of a controlled drug as defined in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, can I refuse to be arrested under this Act because I refuse to enter into a contract with the act?

Drugs are illegal.