lol tvlicensing

MrMoonX said:
Wtf! They are laws their is a distinction between common and criminal yes but equally they are still laws and you can't ignore common laws! And yes the police can ensure you comply with common law acts, the children's act, 1989 is an example where the police will give a local authority social worker access to your home to investigate your children
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I didn't say you can ignore common laws, common law is committing a breach of the peace, committing harm or loss to an individual. You can hear the copper in the video say he's there to prevent breach of peace. ;)

You have the right to refuse consent to any Act, Acts are not law but if you do consent by agreeing YES or giving your Name then it would become law.

We has humans have rights, its just that they are well hidden from us.

lets not go off topic here

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Business Man said:
I didn't say you can ignore common laws, common law is committing a breach of the peace, committing harm or loss to an individual. You can hear the copper in the video say he's there to prevent breach of peace. ;)

You have the right to refuse consent to any Act, Acts are not law but if you do consent by agreeing YES or giving your Name then it would become law.

We has humans have rights, its just that they are well hidden from us.
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You're crazy if you think you can refuse consent to an act! Good luck with that in court :rolleyes:
 
What's your problem, did you even watch the video i posted ? A warrant regarding an ACT from a court is unlawful if i don't give consent, do yo think the police would walk off if the warrant was lawful ? Who are they going to summon and on what grounds ? they dont know my name from Adam, you cant summon mr unknown haha

Even the sergeant found it funny in the end, don't be ignorant and believe because its an ACT it is law, it only becomes law if you agree or give your name
 
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Business Man said:
I didn't say you can ignore common laws, common law is committing a breach of the peace, committing harm or loss to an individual. You can hear the copper in the video say he's there to prevent breach of peace. ;)

You have the right to refuse consent to any Act, Acts are not law but if you do consent by agreeing YES or giving your Name then it would become law.

We has humans have rights, its just that they are well hidden from us.

lets not go off topic here

Thanks
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Can you link to a legitimate source to your claim that an act requires consent to be given the force of law? By legitimate, please don't refer to David Icke, John Harris or the usual FMOL goons.

For reference, Blacks law dictionary is not generally used in the UK and is certainly not the standard reference point for UK law.
 
I'm with business man on this one, I've had several letters from these people threatening me with all sorts from fines to prison. Yet I pay my licence fee by DD , surely they should cross reference before they start chucking **** about.

For the video in question , I'm assuming since they walked away he was correct, otherwise the Sargent would have arrested/ forced entry ?
 
Business Man said:
I didn't say you can ignore common laws, common law is committing a breach of the peace, committing harm or loss to an individual. You can hear the copper in the video say he's there to prevent breach of peace. ;)

You have the right to refuse consent to any Act, Acts are not law but if you do consent by agreeing YES or giving your Name then it would become law.

We has humans have rights, its just that they are well hidden from us.

lets not go off topic here

Thanks
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This one's for free - you're wrong.
 
Nitefly said:
This one's for free - you're wrong.
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Don't tell me i'm wrong without any justification or proof

Why did the sergeant leave ? why did they not force entry with a search warrant from a judge you seem to think gives them the right ?

I've posted proof that an act is not law and requires consent, why don't you ?


I read a case regarding acts and consent before, i'll try find it again
 
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Business Man said:
Don't tell me i'm wrong without any justification or proof

Why did the sergeant leave ? why did they not force entry with a warrant you seem to think gives them the right ?

I've posted proof that an act is not law and require consent, why don't you ?
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Please stop ignoring my request for a source for your arguments. A YouTube video of two hippies bamboozling a police constable is hardly proof.

Or shall I assume that you are unable to provide anything legitimate?
 
Instead of everyone saying "here we go....." "You're wrong " blah blah anyone care to explain what peoples rights are on this with proof?

I'm not having a moan just be interesting to know as their does seem to be a fair few videos with the same outcome.

Either way the letters I have received from them are bordering on ridiculas considering I pay my licence fee
 
Why not buy a common law book and read up for people who disbelieve, i'm not spoon feeding people with different scenarios. If I were wrong then the police would have stated other wise and my door would be off its hinges while TVL goon looked around

You only have to go on youtube and search "TV licence goon" for some entertainment
 
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Lopéz said:
Usual response. It's a real shame because almost every common law/FOTL/Icke discussion goes the same way.
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Indeed. I find it absurd how someone can make such a fundamental 'revelation' that basically anything defined in an Act of Parliament can be ignored by just not agreeing/understanding/'standing under' it, yet the entirety of the 'proof' appears to be a number of youtube videos where police won't enforce a warrant from TV Licensing.
 
But out of interest why are the Police/ Tv guy walking away if they are in right ? I'm not wanting to open up a can of worms about other laws etc etc.

But Police TV person surely wouldn't walk away if they were in the right ?
 
IIRC TVL policy is not to force entry even when they have a warrant.
The warrant itself I think does allow it, but the policy is not to use force (purely for PR reasons I suspect).
 
Business Man said:
Don't tell me i'm wrong without any justification or proof
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Sorry dude, I just did. I'm not going to set about proving that black is black. You can argue and stomp about all you like, but the reality is that nobody is the real world will tolerate or pay attention to any idea that a certain law doesn't apply to you because it is contained within an Act. That is absolute nonsense.

Enforcing TV licencing law against a non-cooperating individual is a waste of time, just so you know my opinion on that. I think the home owners were awesome in that video (even if some things they mention are total tosh).
 
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