*** Nexus 5 THE Official Thread ***

tom_e said:
It's £380 fulfilled by Amazon so just as good as buying direct. I've actually swapped my s4 for an n5 so I've got no reason to argue.
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you do know anyone can put anything on amazon and sell it fulfilled by amazon?

after setting it up all you do is stick all your stock in one of their warehouses and they handle it all for you.
 
muon said:
Amazon do not honour any warranty with fulfillment. It is still up to the seller. They only handle the RMA process.


Read Christopher Logan's review. Amazon will only act within the first 14 days even for fulfillment purchases.

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Also Amazon is not the seller! They are providing logistics.
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Amazon fulfilled means the first 12 months warranty is with Amazon, just like if you buy direct from Amazon. So if anything goes wrong with the phone you get the option of a replacement or refund - I know as I've used the service many times and its why I prefer to shop with Amazon.

There's no risk with buying A fullfilled product - if find it's a grey import then send it back free of charge. Just check as soon as you get it. You lose nothing.
 
photoshop said:
Whats really going on with the camera?

Mixed reviews so far.

- Marques Brownlee wasnt all that impressed. He didnt seem that enthusiastic like he was with the Moto X.
- The Verge are not impressed.
- Android Police say its okay but not great.
- Artem (ex-AP) is not impressed at all.

Focusing and software issues aside, they all say that the picture quality is an improvement over the N4 but still not good enough.

How are people then saying the camera is better than the HTC One and S4?
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Here's some issues the htc one has that made it pretty useless to me.

Take a photo with a large difference in brightness and it always saves the lighter area (fair enough)
http://d.pr/i/FH5Z

Turning on HDR simply ruins every photo
http://d.pr/i/UthA

I had this again and again, luckily I usually had another camera with me when on holiday.

http://d.pr/i/oQIo
http://d.pr/i/pTKo

Then there's the purple fringing :o
http://d.pr/i/Fu5Z
http://d.pr/i/1jZ4
http://d.pr/i/lQnw
http://d.pr/i/wbNb

It regularly misses focus as well
http://d.pr/i/7Gky
http://d.pr/i/JnwG

Or just blurs a whole edge in a really weird way
http://d.pr/i/BMm6
http://d.pr/i/9WjL

So personally I'd say the HTC One camera is complete trash really. So far in low light the Nexus 5 destroys it but I've not used it enough in general shots to really say how good it is yet.
 
Here's my full review for anyone with half an hour to kill -


If you can't stick that, hows about 3 minutes of your time?


I'd be interested in constructive feedback :)
 
Talk slower, I have no problems understanding you (I talk very quickly myself) but I assume you're aiming for a wide audience here.

Edit: That's for the 3 minute version, you could have saved the extra time by making sure you didn't try things like pinch to view all home screens etc.

Edit 2: Watched the full review and have some notes.

Plan the review better in both versions (e.g. light demo in full video, going back and forth between topics in both videos)

Mention that the battery works well because of the new 4.4 optimisations and low powered chips for audio, enveloping etc
Comment on one handed usability
Power button rattle (I think I heard yours rattle in the review)
The desk wobble issue can be fixed with a case
Double speaker grill but only one speaker (the other is a mic)
Mention no IPS polarizer (the reason you get IPS glow for dark screens at 45 degree angles at night)
OIS impact shots in the dark, not the size of the sensor which is average
No mention of Qi magnets to align while charging
You mention hardware specs but don't mention how it compares to the competition
Stop playing Eminem, it's pants :p
Google have mentioned about fixing the camera in a future software update
Comment on call quality/volume both ways
In other launchers you can still access Google now by holding the home key
Were there any lock screen widget changes in 4.4?
Mention it uses a micro sim and has no SD card option
Mention Google apps changes in 4.4
I don't think you need to go into so much detail about how you messed the phone up in the review
NLED is important to a lot of people, and has a nice scatter glow and range of colours to it, sort that out in the review!
 
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Some reasonable points Kreeeee (what is power button rattle? Right now shaking my phone like a nutter, don't hear any rattle?) a couple of them I had in my notes, but it's hard to read through notes at the same time as talking about and operating the phone :)

I wasn't really meaning did I miss anything :p

To be honest, if I did all those though, it would probably be well over 40 minutes. Initially I was hoping to be under 20 minutes, reality is obviously quite different.

As for talking fast in the 3 minute video, that was kinda the point. It's not meant as a serious review particularly, the point was for me to fly through as much as I could in as short a time as possible.

On the dark photo performance, I stand by my point that it's the extra light it lets in that makes the big difference (56% more). OIS will mean they are sharper, but I was referring to how bright photo's look in a dark situation, which is where many phone's struggle, due to the tiny lens.

Thanks for the time watching and feeding back :)
 
Oh and your review wasn't crap, but I never bother with the positive when assessing myself or others :p

I think if you had an organised plan you could easily fit your review and my comments in 25 minutes and the structure would make the review flow nicely.

An overlay of the specs etc whilst you talk about precise numbers might be useful.

Edit: I'll break tradition and say that "White slippy, black grippy" was an excellent line.
 
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Kreeeee said:
Oh and your review wasn't crap, but I never bother with the positive when assessing myself or others :p
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No of course, I wasn't taking it that way, don't worry. I can take criticism :)

Kreeeee said:
I think if you had an organised plan you could easily fit your review and my comments in 25 minutes and the structure would make the review flow nicely.
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Yes, I think if I was prepared to spend longer on these, then I could make them flow better, I would re-record bits I found errors with, or realised I missed something. This in itself probably consumed around 90-100 minutes of my Sunday morning, I have other things to do :p

Kreeeee said:
An overlay of the specs etc whilst you talk about precise numbers might be useful.
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I like this idea. Even just some text overlays with the figures would have been helpful.

Kreeeee said:
Edit: I'll break tradition and say that "White slippy, black grippy" was an excellent line.
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Ha ha, thanks.
 
kona786 said:
Amazon fulfilled means the first 12 months warranty is with Amazon, just like if you buy direct from Amazon. So if anything goes wrong with the phone you get the option of a replacement or refund - I know as I've used the service many times and its why I prefer to shop with Amazon.

There's no risk with buying A fullfilled product - if find it's a grey import then send it back free of charge. Just check as soon as you get it. You lose nothing.
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Amazon handle the RMA process. The seller must provide a replacement.

Amazon only handle DSR returns.
 
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muon said:
Amazon handle the RMA process. The seller must provide a replacement.

Amazon only handle DSR returns.
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Who care's. There's no apreciable difference. It's the same standard as you would get from Amazon direct, hence Amazon fulfilled.

And it's not just the 30day DSR. Like I said it's the full 12 months warranty.

AndyCr15 said:
On the dark photo performance, I stand by my point that it's the extra light it lets in that makes the big difference (56% more). OIS will mean they are sharper, but I was referring to how bright photo's look in a dark situation, which is where many phone's struggle, due to the tiny lens
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We are getting better low light perfeormance (exposeure) by a using slower shutter speed (lets more light in). On a standard camera this would introduce blur. OIS is here to reduce the blur.
 
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muon said:
Amazon handle the RMA process. The seller must provide a replacement.

Amazon only handle DSR returns.
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Nope, Amazon provide a year's warranty with any item they sell/fulfil (I have experienced this myself). I have actually returned faulty items after the 1 year with no fuss.

Technically, it should be 6 years as you have 6 years with the company you bought it from under the Sale of Goods Act.
 
Okay, but are you saying the more light is because of the slower shutter speed, that's the only reason? So far I've only read/heard it's because of the 'design' of the lens? Do you happen to have a link?
 
DanF said:
So personally I'd say the HTC One camera is complete trash really. So far in low light the Nexus 5 destroys it but I've not used it enough in general shots to really say how good it is yet.
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Strange you should say that as every review has said the camera is brilliant... :confused:
 
AndyCr15 said:
Okay, but are you saying the more light is because of the slower shutter speed, that's the only reason? So far I've only read/heard it's because of the 'design' of the lens? Do you happen to have a link?
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Thats it Andy. OIS is purely there to help with slower shutter speeds which inturn lets in more light. Other phone's without OIS usaully ramp up ISO which introduces noise.

The sensor is 1.4 micron size pixels which help a bit too, compared to smaller pixels on the GS4. HTC one has bigger pixels. iPhone 5s uses 1.5.

I don't have a link - but what I'm trying to say is that is the whole point of OIS.
 
AndyCr15 said:
No of course, I wasn't taking it that way, don't worry. I can take criticism :)



Yes, I think if I was prepared to spend longer on these, then I could make them flow better, I would re-record bits I found errors with, or realised I missed something. This in itself probably consumed around 90-100 minutes of my Sunday morning, I have other things to do :p



I like this idea. Even just some text overlays with the figures would have been helpful.



Ha ha, thanks.
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No worries, I wasn't sure how "into" these reviews you were planning to get so just dumped everything on here.
 
kona786 said:
Thats it Andy. OIS is purely there to help with slower shutter speeds which inturn lets in more light. Other phone's without OIS usaully ramp up ISO which introduces noise.
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What I'm asking is, yes OIS helps give lower shutter speeds which then lets more light through, that's a known fact. I'm saying I've read and seen in some videos that the lens design is different, allowing more light in.

It may be just the image stabilisation that gives this, maybe the people reporting got the wrong end of the stick and that's all it is?
 
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