***The Vapers Lounge***

[Merlin5]

5 wraps with .2 kanthal around 2mm silica was the sweet spot for me, came out around 1.8ohms. Get you self a multimeter if you are building you own coils, can pick one up from fleabag for 3 quid.

Never used a multimeter, do I just place the two needles to the coil itself while it's screwed to the battery and measure? This would do, right? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIGITAL-L..._Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item2c6b04b30d

I used 1.5mm Ekowool with 0.2mm Kanthal wire.

Put a pin down the middle of the Ekowool and sealed one end with tape, also boiled the ekowool for 20 mins and then burned it with a lighter, then wrapped the kanthal around the ekowool (already on the pin to keep it straight). Once it looked ok I slip the pin out and removed the tape / measured resistance etc. came out about 1.8ohm for 4 wraps of 0.2mm Kanthal wire. Bit fiddly but not really difficult. Just need good lighting and steady hands.

Cool, I'll get Ekowool. Watched a video last night, some guy did the same, he had ekowool, says it's really strong and good to work with, and he also burned it straight from the pack with a lighter to tighten the binds and stop it fraying. He didn't boil it though.

Merlin5, as above, I usually use .2 kanthal A1, bought a spool of it ages ago that will probably last me into 2024 I don't really use EVODs anymore, been exclusively dripping. 2mm was my weapon of choice for silica, then I found cotton. Pure cotton wool walks all over synthetic wicks IMO

Looks like .2 kanthal is where it's at then. I can buy Kanthal A1 Heat Resistance Wire - 0.2mm Diameter (150 Micron) - 5 Metre Spool for the princely sum of £1.50 + £1.50 postage from the mesh company on fleabay.

 

[jmc007]

I find ribbon wire on SS rope gives the best results.

 

[NirK]

With 1.5mm ekowool and 0.2mm Kanthal it is a lot better than the stock heads... I just went back to a standard head and it tastes like &^%$ compared to the DIY one. It is pretty small and tricky to do but considering it costs about 5p and works better I think it is worth doing.

 

[NirK]

Should I get the Aga T2 clone from fasttech? Is it good? Argh there is so many options I cannot decide which to get... Just want a reasonably simple to set up, nice tasting, non leaking, glass and metal one... Aga t2, i atty, kraken clone, pulse G, RSST etc etc . argh!

 

[j.col]

I have an Aga-t, and they can be fiddly to set up and have to be kept upright or they leak.
My recommendation mate would be to get a kayfun lite/clone.
They are easy to set up, dont leak and great flavour

 

[NirK]

I have an Aga-t, and they can be fiddly to set up and have to be kept upright or they leak.
My recommendation mate would be to get a kayfun lite/clone.
They are easy to set up, dont leak and great flavour

But they have a plastic tank and I like citrus and menthol liquids so bit worried it might crack it, so does the RSST, bit odd how the 2 more expensive ones have plastic and the cheaper ones have glass.

What about the RSST? You can buy replacement tanks in the UK for that for £3 so that would be alright if it cracked.

 

[d_brennen]

Looks like .2 kanthal is where it's at then. I can buy Kanthal A1 Heat Resistance Wire - 0.2mm Diameter (150 Micron) - 5 Metre Spool for the princely sum of £1.50 + £1.50 postage from the mesh company on fleabay.

Also, a bag of 100% organic cotton wool balls cost me 99p from a chemist. Enough to last months and months, if not a year.

 

[Merlin5]

Also, a bag of 100% organic cotton wool balls cost me 99p from a chemist. Enough to last months and months, if not a year.

Would cotton wool be a bit fluffy and potentially difficult to twist and work with compared to the tight and ready twisted bind of something like ekowool?

 

[d_brennen]

It's a dream to work with tbh, pull the right amount off (you get a feeling for it), twist the end and twist it through the coil. Snip loose ends with a part of scissors

 

[NirK]

Hmm when I made a ekowool coil last night it worked perfectly first time.... I am not sure what I did but I have made 3 more since and they all taste quite bad.... They all have a burnt taste, not the same as the silica burnt taste, not very nice... I have no idea why and it is annoying me.

 

[Merlin5]

It's a dream to work with tbh, pull the right amount off (you get a feeling for it), twist the end and twist it through the coil. Snip loose ends with a part of scissors

Oh, I thought you were meant to make the coil by twisting the wire around the wick? You make your coil first then thread the cotton wool wick through it?

 

[d_brennen]

Yeah, on a machine screw or even a thin screwdriver shaft. Easier than faffing around winding over a floppy wick

e: this is where torching your wire comes into it's own, takes the springiness out of it

 

[Crowort]

Oh, I thought you were meant to make the coil by twisting the wire around the wick? You make your coil first then thread the cotton wool wick through it?

You got it right. You make the coil on a biggish needle then thread the cotton wool in, the cotton wool doesn't need to be to tight in either since it gets a good bit bigger when it is wet. You can never let cotton wool dry out or it will burn (taste nasty) It isn't something I've tried yet but watched some videos and it gets good reviews.

 

[d_brennen]

Hmm when I made a ekowool coil last night it worked perfectly first time.... I am not sure what I did but I have made 3 more since and they all taste quite bad.... They all have a burnt taste, not the same as the silica burnt taste, not very nice... I have no idea why and it is annoying me.

Perhaps the coils are too tight, both to the wick and to each other. Did you pulse them to see how evenly they light up?

 

[NirK]

Perhaps the coils are too tight, both to the wick and to each other. Did you pulse them to see how evenly they light up?

They look alright, no hotspots etc. Think I will try cotton microcoil tomorrow, Do you know if the coils on a microcoil are supposed to touch each other? Also what size Kanthal?

 

[j.col]

They look alright, no hotspots etc. Think I will try cotton microcoil tomorrow, Do you know if the coils on a microcoil are supposed to touch each other? Also what size Kanthal?

Not sure on the Rsst but its a genesis style atty so may have the same problems.
I have had Lemon & Lime in my KFL with no problems, and they also come with a middle section made of SS as well.

Yep microcoils are supposed to touch each other.
I use a cotton bud stalk, i make 9 turns using 28awg (0.3) kanthal which gives me about 1.3 to 1.4ohms.
10 wraps should give you 1.5ish, etc........
You will know its done right, when u pulse it, it starts to glow from the centre out.
here is a guide on doing a microcoil and with a table giving different ohms readings for the amount of wraps using 0.2 kanthal
http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/32391/microcoil-cotton-guide

edit. also sounds to me that you wrapped the coils to tight on the wick, if its too tight, the wick cannot supply the juice quickly enough and you will get dry hits/burning taste.
The feel of wrapping comes with expierence, the coils shout be touching the wick, but not too tight or too loose. Keep at it you will nail it soon

 

[Merlin5]

Yeah, on a machine screw or even a thin screwdriver shaft. Easier than faffing around winding over a floppy wick

e: this is where torching your wire comes into it's own, takes the springiness out of it

You got it right. You make the coil on a biggish needle then thread the cotton wool in, the cotton wool doesn't need to be to tight in either since it gets a good bit bigger when it is wet. You can never let cotton wool dry out or it will burn (taste nasty) It isn't something I've tried yet but watched some videos and it gets good reviews.

Thanks guys. It does look pretty easy to do it with a screw and wire made needle, I just watched this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz93me8hplU

Right then, I've just started vaping but quickly getting to understand a little more about mods. So NOW I already want a fancy looking Vamo as it looks really nice. Checked out the lavatube but it's quite expensive.

Myepack does the full vamo v5 SS kit for £54.99 with batteries, chargers and a couple of tanks. Can I get it cheaper anywhere else? Must be stainless steel as I understand the chrome ones deteriorate quite quickly in appearance. Somehow don't think I'll get it cheaper.

I might add a dripping mod to the Vamo like the phoenix rebuildable in the video to juice the coil directly, and also a tank mod that will both work with the Vamo. Preferably in SS finish, but maybe chrome for one of them. And for the tank, does anyone know what this one is?



Looks nice, I sort of prefer straight tips liike that with no curvy bits. (Not including the provari, that's like about £150 I think. )

Otherwise, thinking of the Protank 2 £11.99, or Protank 3 dual coil £12.99. Same spec, one extra coil to worry about. Any opinions on those?
I think the Protanks and the Phoenix and the Vamo all share 510 connectors, so all compatible?

 

[Jamesbcd]

Noob alert.

Bought my mum the Itaste VV 3.0 I think it is, as she wants to quit smoking. She describes a harsh throat hit and keeps going back to her cigs.
Shes using it with the iClear 16 clearomizers and this liquid.

Being new to this, what do I need to look into?
Is it the cheap liquid or just the power settings too high?

 

[NirK]

Think I must have a case of the old "vapers tongue", I have 3 heads here, 1 is ekowool, 1 is stock coil and 1 is a microcoil with cotton in it. None of them taste of anything except a tiny bit of flavour mixed with wick taste!

 

[NirK]

Noob alert.

Bought my mum the Itaste VV 3.0 I think it is, as she wants to quit smoking. She describes a harsh throat hit and keeps going back to her cigs.
Shes using it with the iClear 16 clearomizers and this liquid.

Being new to this, what do I need to look into?
Is it the cheap liquid or just the power settings too high?

Dekang liquids do seem to have a harsh taste / throat hit, try another liquid.