E60 535d - OptionsBMW is comfortable,

Above the F10 528i is the 530i, the 530d, the 535i, the 535d, the 550i, the M550d, the M5.

Above the E46 330i is the M3.

What a downgrade in life... you'll be so disappointed.

But either way it is still better than your car if you don't like diesels.

Infact I would say an E46 330i is better than your car too for the same reason.

Seems to me you are clearly belittling other models now just to get him to buy your car lol?
 
If a 530d is worth 12 then a 535d is worth at least 13
Agreed, the price has now increasd to £13.5k.
But either way it is still better than your car if you don't like diesels.

Infact I would say an E46 330i is better than your car too for the same reason.

Seems to me you are clearly belittling other models now just to get him to buy your car lol?
Could be worse, I could be trying to sell him a fictional Audi A3 that I drove in to a puddle.
That is a very interesting way of looking at it, although, you could say that a similarly powerful specification of 5 Series would be an upgrade, even if not buying the newer model?
No, as the F10 528i is slower than the E46 330i. If the OP is the sort of person who feels he has reached his maximum potential in life - become all that he will ever be - then the 528i is the perfect car for him. If he's the sort of entrepreneurial, get-up-and-go, always fighting for better sort of chap... well, he knows what to do.
 
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Sorry mate, I've got a thing against buying high mileage cars. I know it's silly and these have loads of miles in them, but there you go.

Mai. Thing however, is I'm after more toys, and with my spinal problems, am after comfort seats.

Cheers,

Mal
I've just been outside with my laptop and it's 60k now. £14k?
 
The 528i fits your bill. When I first wanted an F10 replacement for the E60, it was only a 528i in budget and I was close to taking it, especially as it still had the 6cyl engine. However, I really wanted a 535i so, I've still got the E60 until the time is right to burn it. Knowing that I could still get £10k for it, even next year, keeps me happy.
 
Lol good one ;)

I think what you all don't realise is I'm a very hard working person, with my own successful growing business, built up from scratch etc

However, in my personal life, when I really want something, I don't mind paying a bit for it, up to an amount I'm willing to pay.

Mal
 
However, in my personal life, when I really want something, I don't mind paying a bit for it, up to an amount I'm willing to pay.
Let's recap. When you really want something, you:

1. Will pay a bit
2. Up to an amount you are willing to pay

Is there anyone in the world for whom this isn't the case?
 
Yeah I'm quite happy if, on paper, I'm spending nearly the same on something a bit older, which will depreciate more etc, if it's something I want, rather than doing the sensible thing and getting the newer but duller car.

I was warned off buying my 330i at the time by Fox, but it's been an absolutely lovely and fun car!
 
You were not warned off the 330i, the 330i is an excellent car, it was the box - you've just been very very lucky with your SMG gearbox :p

'Newer but duller car'

It's a diesel 5 Series not an Aston Martin. It's not even the car you really want, thats the XF facelift!

Like for like, the F10 is a better car than the E60 in every possible way. Ok, a compromise must be made to get one for £17k and this 'compromise' is the engine, but there is nothing particularly bad about a 260bhp petrol six, is there? It's still fairly quick! It's not as if there is a 518d on the table, is it?

The F10 is better inside, its better outside, it's fresh and more modern, the interior electronics are fantastic, it has proper digital climate, its just a great car. It also has the excellent ZF 8 Speed gearbox, which of course the E60 does not. It's also got the modern HDD based navigation which is a massive improvement on the fairly crappy one fitted to that E60.

If you want an E60 - get one - but really, £17k on a 6 year old one? You must be able to appreciate that it doesn't really represent a great buy.

I've probably asked this about 3 times now and I've not seen an answer, what is it about that 535d that makes it worth almost DOUBLE the money of maccapaccas 530i E60 LCI linked to earlier in this thread? They are the same age, both have decent spec... yet once is TWICE the price. For what?
 
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Yes I have been lucky with the SMG, and it's now done 110,000 miles! It really has been a great great car.

I can also appreciate an E60 535d doesn't represent a good, value for money purchase, however getting value for money is rarely my top priority!

I only want to get the XF facelift once I can go for the 3.0 Diesel S without it effecting my home life. We're looking at spending £30-£40k on our house this year now.

I know the F10 is better than the E60, but I'd rather have an x35d than an x28i. A 260bhp petrol is certainly good, but I feel like going for a different flavour now.
 
I can also appreciate an E60 535d doesn't represent a good, value for money purchase, however getting value for money is rarely my top priority!

I only want to get the XF facelift once I can go for the 3.0 Diesel S without it effecting my home life. We're looking at spending £30-£40k on our house this year now.

The less hasty you are to throw away £17,000 on an old E60 the sooner you'll be able to make that jump into the car you actually want...

The E60 sounds like a stop-gap car - so spend less on something just as good.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ries/onesearchad/used,nearlynew,new?logcode=p

This one isn't a serious suggestion at all but it's just there to give you some context to the E60 market. It's older, its done more miles, but as the E60 ages, the values of all of them will blur into one. Look at the E39 now. They are done, they are all worth £1-£4k irrespective of spec, miles, age or engine, M5 excepted. That will be the E60 at some point, and the risk of a £17k one is therefore massive.

Just look at this one - lower mileage (ie, in the lower rate warranty bracket), lots of spec, 272bhp..

£8999 and to be honest it's actually a bit expensive in my opinion..

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...i/radius/1501/page/1/model/5_series?logcode=p

Even if you don't particularly like that one it's a very useful highlight of just how overpriced the 535d's are. 10 more bhp, a diesel engine and M Sport spec isn't worth £9000 more money.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...de/pl11aa/radius/1500/model/e_class?logcode=p

You can even buy a 2 year old current model 7G-tronic E350 for not much more...
 
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If I put comfort seats in, loosen all the engine mounts, take the exhaust manifold gasket out and take all the sound deadening out would that be better?
 
Could be worse, I could be trying to sell him a fictional Audi A3 that I drove in to a puddle.

Lol; (put in spoiler so not to derail thread)

1. I have a reciept for the car.

2. I have a reciept for the insurance, and the HPI check I did.

3. I am not trying to sell it to anyone.

4. I have pictures of the car, with EXIF information that links it to my then-mobile phone, one of which was taken on the night it got flooded (which was in the news).

5. I have pictures of the actual flood damage, which I will post tommorow when I get them from my Father (because my phone got lost in the flood), which were taken then sent to the insurance as proof of full write off.

Like I said, not fictional at all :)

If you want £13k for it you should say so at the start, bad form to raise the price by a grand "just because"!!!
 
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The less hasty you are to throw away £17,000 on an old E60 the sooner you'll be able to make that jump into the car you actually want...

True, however in my reality, it probably won't actually make a difference, as it's more a case of not wanting to spend £30k at the moment, rather than not being able to. Spending £17k now won't delay the purchase of my next car, or the figure I would spend on it.

My head is perhaps a rather strange place for others to appreciate, however does me well :)
 
Yes I have been lucky with the SMG, and it's now done 110,000 miles! It really has been a great great car.

I can also appreciate an E60 535d doesn't represent a good, value for money purchase, however getting value for money is rarely my top priority!

I only want to get the XF facelift once I can go for the 3.0 Diesel S without it effecting my home life. We're looking at spending £30-£40k on our house this year now.

I know the F10 is better than the E60, but I'd rather have an x35d than an x28i. A 260bhp petrol is certainly good, but I feel like going for a different flavour now.

Out of interest, what way do you drive that requires 350hp (after remap) compared to 272hp in the same car, a car not made for performance driving (that is what the M5 is for) ?
 
True, however in my reality, it probably won't actually make a difference, as it's more a case of not wanting to spend £30k at the moment, rather than not being able to. Spending £17k now won't delay the purchase of my next car, or the figure I would spend on it.

My head is perhaps a rather strange place for others to appreciate, however does me well :)

I've made a rather large edit to my post above with some links to other cars, have a quick read :)
 
True, however in my reality, it probably won't actually make a difference, as it's more a case of not wanting to spend £30k at the moment, rather than not being able to. Spending £17k now won't delay the purchase of my next car, or the figure I would spend on it.

My head is perhaps a rather strange place for others to appreciate, however does me well :)

I just don't understand the appeal of an old platform diesel over a well specced, lower mileage, newer platform petrol model for the same price really. I would get it if the newer model was a 1.8 4 cylinder, but it is a silky smooth v6!
If I was looking to spend 17k I would be straight into the BMW I linked to, it is a bargain and I am not even looking for 5 series'!
 
a car not made for performance driving (that is what the M5 is for) ?
What is 'performance driving'?
Lol; (put in spoiler so not to derail thread)

1. I have a reciept for the car.

2. I have a reciept for the insurance, and the HPI check I did.

3. I am not trying to sell it to anyone.

4. I have pictures of the car, with EXIF information that links it to my then-mobile phone, one of which was taken on the night it got flooded (which was in the news).

5. I have pictures of the actual flood damage, which I will post tommorow when I get them from my Father (because my phone got lost in the flood), which were taken then sent to the insurance as proof of full write off.

Like I said, not fictional at all :)

If you want £13k for it you should say so at the start, bad form to raise the price by a grand "just because"!!!
Over Clocker's agreed to pay £13.5k so I don't see what your problem is? It's a clearly superior car to the F10 528i in every way.
 
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