Android more popular than iPhone in the UK ?

Mynight said:
Ios and mac are beautiful together (well from my virtual machine experience). It only has iTunes to integrate with in windows which is terrible considering how old the program is.
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Call me a luddite, but I much rather if my phone or MP3 player behaved like a normal mass storage device, then use the good plain ol' Explorer to copy files over. iTunes an old program? Explorer is older :p Winamp playlists? No prob, use batch file to copy a playlist over. One folder per album / playlist. I like to see what I'm doing rather than a 'statutory' program forced on me doing it for me.
 
Haha ill give you that. I try and blank explorer from my memory. It was a traumatic experience :D.

I much prefere using my phone as a mass storage and copying files in and as I need. Unfortunatly iTunes is the one of the few officially supported program's(if jailbroken its another story). it does seem considerably worse on windows than mac. Conspiracy theory in me says apple did it on purpose. A company with billions and some amazing talent could surely do better than that :D.


Ill submit when you include apps into the mix then yes ios is well integrated but just working on the basis of software offered by the oem android/windows clearly outperform on the windows os.
 
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It's payback for Office on Mac being horrendous.

I don't think I've ever plugged my iPhone into a computer so I can't relate to these issues at all.
 
Haha I haven't used it on mac yet.

I don't really own a legal mac. I presume a normal mac is much better (my software is legit and paid for just grey area install).just can't justify spending another £500 and take up space yet.
 
iTunes on a Mac works perfectly well. That and iTunes Match and an iPhone is a winning combination if you are one of the few people left who haven't jumped ship to Spotify. I like the idea of curating a library because I'm weird so I can't get excited about streaming all my music.
 
I'm still in the stone ages somewhat on that one. I still honestly prefere having hard copies of my music. The entire debacle of not technically owning the music downloaded via iTunes makes me fear streaming all the more when its never stored locally on my computer.

CDs for the win :D
 
I don't think there's a difference between licensing downloaded music vs. owning a CD. In both cases you only own the physical thing it's stored on, you don't get any ownership over the content.

Haven't bought a CD in years though. Certainly not this decade.
 
O I just meant burning it all to disk. Just so I have somthing physical :)

Very good point on not actually owning the content. It's a bit of a weird area. Normally when you buy somthing you have more rights to it. Seemingly not with media.
 
Caged said:
I don't think there's a difference between licensing downloaded music vs. owning a CD. In both cases you only own the physical thing it's stored on, you don't get any ownership over the content.

Haven't bought a CD in years though. Certainly not this decade.
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It's the same with software, you actually have the right to use rather than own
 
Energize said:
Honestly that's the least of my issues considering how buggy eclipse is. :p

Having to constantly clean my project because I changed an xml file which is now causing some error message saying one thing can't be cast to another, or getting an exception that the package I'm developing isn't installed when I try to upload my program to the phone.
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Mynight said:
Arrgh I thought that was just my install of eclipse haha :D I always put it down to inexperience.

I have noticed my R.java goes walkies way too much :( pain in the backside to fix.
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Despite it still being in early preview development stage, Android Studio (with Gradle) is far easier to work with than Eclipse, especially with the Groovy DSL and Maven integration. I moved my Android development team to Android Studio (with Gradle) a few months ago and it's been largely headache free (except for when my custom Gradle build scripts randomly stop working with some NullPointerException when I do an upgrade of Gradle or Android Build Tools :p).
 
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Pho said:
According to a colleague who's ported his companies' app for iOS/Android/Windows phone, objective-C is the most horrid language he's ever written in :p.
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If you've never written anything in objective-C before then it's certainly weird. However, it's consistently weird. Once you get into it, you realise how many neat features it has. Because objective-C is pretty much controlled by Apple, they can add new language and compiler features rapidly. An objective-C app written for iOS 2.0 would look very different to one written for iOS 7.0.
 
jon86 said:
Despite it still being in early preview development stage, Android Studio (with Gradle) is far easier to work with than Eclipse, especially with the Groovy DSL and Maven integration. I moved my Android development team to Android Studio (with Gradle) a few months ago and it's been largely headache free (except for when my custom Gradle build scripts randomly stop working with some NullPointerException when I do an upgrade of Gradle or Android Build Tools :p).
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I will have a look into that :) Cheers for the heads up.

Tunney said:
If you've never written anything in objective-C before then it's certainly weird. However, it's consistently weird.
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I think that is the best way I've ever heard to describe objective-C :D
 
Caged said:
I don't think there's a difference between licensing downloaded music vs. owning a CD. In both cases you only own the physical thing it's stored on, you don't get any ownership over the content.
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One of the biggest differences is that with a CD, you can sell it on if you decide you don't like it. With a download you can't do that.
 
airwave99 said:
One of the biggest differences is that with a CD, you can sell it on if you decide you don't like it. With a download you can't do that.
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True, but who does? You might get 50p down a charity shop but in reality, once you've got some songs you like why would you want to sell?

Also, looking at steam trade, maybe they'll bring out something similar with Spotify etc.
 
Dimple said:
Android is the choice of chavs obviously


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No no no - those are blackberries!!

I think people are just less enchanted with IOS as they used to be and Android with it's flexibility seems to offer people a little more of what they want.

With the collaboration between Microsoft and Android for their joint operating system, I think will see Android continue to improve in perception and use.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25743077
 
Freefaller said:
I think people are just less enchanted with IOS as they used to be and Android with it's flexibility seems to offer people a little more of what they want.
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Personally I don't know anybody who has gone from iOS to Android because they know they they will be getting something that just works.
I think it's 100% to do with people going into a phone shop (or on the Internet), seeing the massive price it costs to get a hi-end iOS or Android phone and then choose a £10/month contract with a cheap Android (or cheap Android with PAYG).
 
I went fro Apple to Android as i was fed up with the sandboxing and felt very restrictive, price had nothing to do with it for me - but I don't think the premium of Apple is worth the product you get. Nothing wrong with Apple, and they're fine for most people, but I just prefer more flexibility. :)
 
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