Our Bullmastiff caught a burglar last night

[tom_e]

Cannot compare a Boxer to a Bullmastif. Boxers are daft old things, best family pet you could have in my opinion as they just love kids and being involved.

Definitely in no way a guard dog. Alert you, yes, protect you, no. My old boxer would have just drooled on the burglar whilst trying her best to look scary (just looked cute really).

A Bullmastif though, is a guard dog and will protect its walker/family. Big bloody scary things.

EDIT: always late to the party

You say that but labs aren't known for their guarding or protection abilities and especially not ours he's a great big dopey thing but there have been times when he's been taken out for a walk when we lived in a rough area and people have seen he's just a lab and thought they'd have a pop because he's not a brick outhouse of a mastiff and got a shock when he's started to go for them.

Whilst it's good he protected your home and partner it does raise some interesting questions.

Don't they put dogs down who attack people as once they get a taste for it they are likely to try it again?

This has been covered, by that thinking all Police and personal protection dogs would be dead after their first outing.

 

[OhEsEcks]

Don't they put dogs down who attack people as once they get a taste for it they are likely to try it again?

Someone already asked that retarded question earlier in the thread. The answer is no. Most people who have a dog bite someone can choose to have it put down, unless the dog was out of control in a public place or is of a banned type, in which case it will be taken by police and destroyed.

 

[Vidar]

Clearly the lost person in the back garden surrounded by 6ft fencing used to live on earth, but was abducted by aliens who erronously dropped him back off in a 6ft fenced off garden. That's the only reasonable explanation for a complete stranger to be in your enclosed fenced off back garden at 10:30 at night. So yes;

This, this is my favourite post..... genius managing to get this into a dog eats burglar thread

 

[antijoke]

Someone already asked that retarded question earlier in the thread. The answer is no. Most people who have a dog bite someone can choose to have it put down, unless the dog was out of control in a public place or is of a banned type, in which case it will be taken by police and destroyed.

I used the word attack opposed to bite for that very reason, to distinguish the two.

 

[OhEsEcks]

I used the word attack opposed to bite for that very reason, to distinguish the two.

And still the answer is no. If your dog attacks someone on your own property, you do not have to have it destroyed (unless it is a banned breed and the police attend in which case they will confiscate it under the DDA). However, most people do because they're under the retarded illusion that once your dog bites someone it gets a taste for blood. A stupid retarded myth from the dog fighting world about "blooding" dogs.

 

[antijoke]

Are you paid by the word for the use of retard in your posts or something?

 

[OhEsEcks]

Are you paid by the word for the use of retard in your posts or something?

Only when speaking to them.

 

[Rainmaker]

That's the thing, a trained guard dog is not the same as a "trained savage attack dog", there was a member on here who had a trained German Shepherd (somebody might remember who it was, I can't for the life of me) which was world away from your dog in terms of demeanour. It was certainly a dog I'd be happy to have roaming my property.

As I said I have experience in the PP arena and know the difference. Unfortunately legally it's not always the same thing, which is what I was referring to. Having a dog that acts out of 'instinct' is classed as 'natural' (as with a dog chasing a cat, for example). Having a dog specifically trained to bite, for whatever reason, opens up a lot of legal liabilities and when you send your dog in for a bit you'd better be sure it's for the right reason. In the first instance, your dog bit a bad guy out of pure instinct. In the second you used your dog purposefully as a weapon and are in control, hence there is a stricter liability involved.

Just the same way, having a sign saying 'Beware of the dog: Enter at your own risk' opens you up to a claim based on you having apparent fore-knowledge that your dog was 'dangerous', whereas a sign saying 'Please close the gate - dogs running loose' doesn't. I hope that makes sense.

And still the answer is no. If your dog attacks someone on your own property, you do not have to have it destroyed (unless it is a banned breed and the police attend in which case they will confiscate it under the DDA). However, most people do because they're under the retarded illusion that once your dog bites someone it gets a taste for blood. A stupid retarded myth from the dog fighting world about "blooding" dogs.

Ironically that myth came from the Humane Society of the United States and others, who spread misinformation to demonise dog fights in a time where they were either legal or at worst a misdemeanour. Unfortunately, young thugs read these propaganda leaflets and decided they were training manuals, and so myth became reality in a sad, self-fulfilling prophecy. Just an aside.

 

[antijoke]

Only when speaking to them.

How edgy.

 

[TomProx]

I agree. It shouldn't just spontaneously attack people it doesn't recognise on its property. What if someone had actually been lost? I know you said you have high fences, but even so!

I'd be surprised if someone got lost and ended up in a garden surrounded by 6ft high fences.

Must have took the wrong turn at albuquerque.

 

[OhEsEcks]

How edgy.

Well you asked a snarky question, you got a snarky answer. But here...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-five-year-old-boy-who-mauled-3087802

This womans kid was left permanently scarred by their dog and they didn't have it destroyed. In fact she wants to offload it to someone else. The Shar Pei is a fighting dog. Perfectly legal to own in the UK. Had it been a Pit bull "type", japanese tosa, dogo argentino or fila braziliero, the police could have confiscated it and destroyed it themselves. That baby that was killed by the Alaskan malamute not that long ago? Happened on their property. They didn't have to have that dog destroyed. And it would be the same for any other breed that attacked or killed someone on the owners property, unless it was those four listed under the dangerous dogs act.

 

[Ace Modder]

I would be a little concerned about the skally wanting to come back for revenge. Chavs are notorious for that.

 

[arknor]

I'll echo some of the concerned voices in the thread.

A burglar being savaged by the house dog is great, of course, but it does concern me that these dogs exist when you have kids climbing into people's gardens to fetch balls and suchlike. Yeah they shouldn't be going in without permission, but that's kids isn't it

in my day we used to knock on the door, if no one answered we climbed over.

if a nasty dog was in the garden you would know before you were anywhere near landing on the other side
viscious dogs in peoples back gardens didn't scare us.

it was the ones roaming the streets that try to bone you

 

[Indie]

Good Story!...

But omg look how pretty he issss!!!!!

 

[OhEsEcks]

I would be a little concerned about the skally wanting to come back for revenge. Chavs are notorious for that.

Someone else mentioned earlier in the thread about getting something chucked over the fence. Poisoned meat or something. So I'd be on the look out for that. Although, with hedges and things to get into the back of it'll be hard to keep an eye on.

 

[kindai]

Top dog!

 

[Windle]

Any kid climbing into a garden with a dog that is defending it's territory will know about it before they climb off the fence. Dogs defending territory don't just stand there silently waiting for whoever it is to come in, it would be at the fence growling/barking at them.

Dogs show aggression, both physically through stance/body language and audibly. Much preferable in my opinion to humans who can stand there smiling then try and stick a knife in you.

 

[antijoke]

Well you asked a snarky question, you got a snarky answer. But here...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-five-year-old-boy-who-mauled-3087802

This womans kid was left permanently scarred by their dog and they didn't have it destroyed. In fact she wants to offload it to someone else. The Shar Pei is a fighting dog. Perfectly legal to own in the UK. Had it been a Pit bull "type", japanese tosa, dogo argentino or fila braziliero, the police could have confiscated it and destroyed it themselves. That baby that was killed by the Alaskan malamute not that long ago? Happened on their property. They didn't have to have that dog destroyed. And it would be the same for any other breed that attacked or killed someone on the owners property, unless it was those four listed under the dangerous dogs act.

I suggest you re-read my post, it was not asked in a snarky way at all, I was asking what I thought was a legitimate question as I did not know if that was correct or not.

But I'll let you carry on with your keyboard warrior facade if it makes you feel big and warm inside.

 

[OhEsEcks]

But I'll let you carry on with your keyboard warrior facade if it makes you feel big and warm inside.

Give it a rest you pretentious bore.

 

[Freefaller]

You're lucky the dog wasn't stabbed!
Burglars / thieves normally carry screwdrivers and wouldn't think twice about using them if they were being mauled by a large dog, anything to get away and not get caught.

Personally I would never place the safety of a loved family pet in this position unless I seriously felt the safety of my family was in serious and imminent danger!!

Plus it sounds like your dog is poorly trained and dangerous tbh, imho the only time this behavior is acceptable from a dog is if the owner is actually being physically attacked!!
I don't know about you guys but when I was younger I use to occasionally sneak into peoples gardens to retrieve footballs, Frisbees, tennis balls ..etc ..etc
It sounds like I would have lost half my arm/face if I had tried to retrieve anything from your garden!! (Ohhh and a big to the people thinking it serves you right for being on someones property )

Rainmaker is a dog trainer of 20 years (including Police dogs), besides you've never owned a dog because you've got a completely skewed perception of a dog's intelligence, and behaviour.