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AMD Vesuvius R9 295 X2 Inbound

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LtMatt said:
One for the gossip goats.


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Lol at the pic.

This thing will be a beast !
 
I find it ridiculous that instead of spending resources on the next gen, which all news at the moment points that AMD has not even begun to do so, they spend it on personalized teasers- not even actual invites to an event.
 
vsg28 said:
I find it ridiculous that instead of spending resources on the next gen, which all news at the moment points that AMD has not even begun to do so, they spend it on personalized teasers- not even actual invites to an event.
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I'm confused now, wasn't AMD first to launch a next gen card (290)?. The HD7xxx/GTX6xx/GTX7xx were all the same generation, I thought the R9-2xx/GTX8xx were the next gen?
 
Seen a few posts saying that it would be different to other blocked up dual cards... clearly they don't water cool all that much. Sure they use up more power but a block and good rads can handle that much more power easily.

I would buy one of these and slap a block on it straight away if i had the cash!

A half decent loop with a EK block and any card's heat is dealt with easily. My 290x has not even hit 52 degree's maxing out the voltage limit in trixx. With a dual hawaii GPU, you could Overclock it ad keep it well within safe temps, though for normal gaming, you would laughing with the stock performance.

Dont see why weight of the card is an issue, considering how much support watercooling can give to cards. My current 290x could weigh three times as much and the acrylic tubing that supports it would make me still feel like its safe (even with rubber tubing and compression's itd be fine!). VRM's not an issue either, plenty of crazy extreme cards aimed at LN2 benching have amazing VRM set ups which could handle the extra power without an issue. Not sure why memory would be an issue either.
 
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Avenged7Fold said:
Seen a few posts saying that it would be different to other blocked up dual cards... clearly they don't water cool all that much. Sure they use up more power but a block and good rads can handle that much more power easily.

I would buy one of these and slap a block on it straight away if i had the cash!

A half decent loop with a EK block and any card's heat is dealt with easily. My 290x has not even hit 52 degree's maxing out the voltage limit in trixx. With a dual hawaii GPU, you could Overclock it ad keep it well within safe temps, though for normal gaming, you would laughing with the stock performance.

Dont see why weight of the card is an issue, considering how much support watercooling can give to cards. My current 290x could weigh three times as much and the acrylic tubing that supports it would make me still feel like its safe (even with rubber tubing and compression's itd be fine!). VRM's not an issue either, plenty of crazy extreme cards aimed at LN2 benching have amazing VRM set ups which could handle the extra power without an issue. Not sure why memory would be an issue either.
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Dead easy to watercool a dual Hawaii card, but I hope an air cooled version never sees the light of day.
 
I sort of feel the same way. Not because i don't think there are air cooler designs which are not capable but you cant let these cards shine without the serious active cooling that these cards deserve!

A bad air cooler release on a hawaii card would generate so much bad press again. Then you will have half of the people who dont own the cards, spamming the forums with 'DUNT BUI DAT CARD, IT MELT PCB!!!'
 
Avenged7Fold said:
I sort of feel the same way. Not because i don't think there are air cooler designs which are not capable but you cant let these cards shine without the serious active cooling that these cards deserve!

A bad air cooler release on a hawaii card would generate so much bad press again. Then you will have half of the people who dont own the cards, spamming the forums with 'DUNT BUI DAT CARD, IT MELT PCB!!!'
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Put two reference 290Xs next to each other in a PC and see what happens. Yes I know the reference cooler is poor but two of them on two separate cards have more cooling power than even the best quality air cooler would have on a single dual GPU card.

I can not see any air cooler coping with more than 600 watts of heat on an overclocked dual Hawaii card.:eek:
 
Have AMD defiantly said its a pair of 290's? because if all they have confirmed is it's a new dual GPU card, then get ready for the newly rebadged R9 280XX! :P


Kaapstad said:
I can not see any air cooler coping with more than 600 watts of heat on an overclocked dual Hawaii card.:eek:
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Depends on the cooler really, if they made it triple slot and used more copper then it would probably work.
 
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Maybe it'll be the new workstation cooler. :)

As 7990 made use of the same, was lauded by many. Either way they're not going to try bodging a reference cooler onto a Vesuvius, give them some credit.

(fingers crossed) :D :cool:
 
ubersonic said:
Have AMD defiantly said its a pair of 290's? because if all they have confirmed is it's a new dual GPU card, then get ready for the newly rebadged R9 280XX! :P
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If I had to guess I think they may go with two underclocked and undervolted 290P Hawaii chips which would give a good performance boost over a HD7990.
 
ubersonic said:
I'm confused now, wasn't AMD first to launch a next gen card (290)?. The HD7xxx/GTX6xx/GTX7xx were all the same generation, I thought the R9-2xx/GTX8xx were the next gen?
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No, they had about a 2 year gap between the 7000 series and these new cards (all 2 of them!). So it was just playing catch up. They started off saying these cards are Titan Killers which was proved right in some games, not all. But since then Nvidia has released the 780Ti and Titan Black which demolish the Hawaii cards left, right and centre in most games and benchmarks :(

I really want AMD to come out big with 20nm first as they usually have been but it looks very likely that Nvidia has a big lead in technology at the moment- even with Maxwell at 28nm if they decide to do so.
 
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