Our Bullmastiff caught a burglar last night

My overall point is: most people on here seemingly can't wait for the day they get to kick a burglars head in or get their dogs to cause harm of their behalf. I find that a bit weird :p

Whatever you do, don't suggest that it's got anything to do with pent up self-esteem issues. 'Cos that isn't it at all.
 
I want to thank the effete bleeding heart nanny state whiners in this thread for reminding me why I hate the UK.

Good on you OP and good on your dog.
 
poor rainmaker probably wasn't expecting people to be this mean. The way I see it burglar was tresspassing and stealing peoples hard earned possessions and invading what should be a families safe place. With a lone female and child in the house. Nice doggy protects his pack and chases away that nasty man simples.
 
I accept that, but when I say 'let them' (steal), I really meant 'do everything within the law and without having to resort to violence as a means of dissuading a potential burglar'. Better locks/lights etc is fine. My overall point is: most people on here seemingly can't wait for the day they get to kick a burglars head in or get their dogs to cause harm of their behalf. I find that a bit weird :p

Why should we as a society have to accept the fact that owning possessions means having to get better locks/lights etc. Why can't people just keep their grubby little mitts to themselves? You are putting the onus on the home owner/possession owner instead of the criminal. I don't want to live on this planet anymore etc... :(
 
I accept that, but when I say 'let them' (steal), I really meant 'do everything within the law and without having to resort to violence as a means of dissuading a potential burglar'. Better locks/lights etc is fine. My overall point is: most people on here seemingly can't wait for the day they get to kick a burglars head in or get their dogs to cause harm of their behalf. I find that a bit weird :p

What is weird in wanting to see some well deserved justice? We all know that many burglars get away with their crime, and those that are caught are often given pathetic sentences.

The desire to see a burglar ripped to shreds by a dog is simply a case of people having a natural sense of justice.
 
What is weird in wanting to see some well deserved justice? We all know that many burglars get away with their crime, and those that are caught are often given pathetic sentences.

The desire to see a burglar ripped to shreds by a dog is simply a case of people having a natural sense of justice.

Justice:
1. Just behaviour or treatment
2. The quality of being fair and reasonable
3. The administration of the law or authority in maintaining this


There's nothing just, reasonable or fair in someone being "ripped to shreds by a dog" for nicking some stuff from a shed.

In fact, desiring such sounds a bit like;

Revenge:
1. The action of hurting or harming someone in return for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands
2. The desire to repay an injury or wrong


Being roughed up a bit by a dog, and scared ****-less for nicking stuff from a shed.... well, that does seem reasonable.
 
awww didums did the nasty dog hurt the poor inocent criminal. for gods sake people if someone is breaking and entering having a dog grab them back the knackers should be a light let off.

doesnt help when this seems to happen every week or two, taken from the local rag today.

A PROLIFIC crook who tried to raid a house in the early hours fell down the steps trying to escape, a court heard.

Burnley Crown Court was told how drunken Steven Lumb, 56, who has been breaking the law for more than 40 years, was seen lying in the garden. He got up, climbed over a fence and made off.

Lumb of Church Street, Stacksteads — who has 162 offences to his name — admitted attempted burglary at a house on Huttock End Lane, also in Stacksteads, on November 28 last year.

He was given 12 months in prison, suspended for a year, with 12 months supervision.

Stephen Parker, prosecuting, said the 63-year-old victim was renovating his house. He was awoken at 4am by the sound of clanging steel outside and found the front living room window had been smashed.

The victim went outside and saw someone walking away from his front garden. He tried to follow Lumb, but lost sight of him. The defendant was picked out on a video identity parade.

Keith Harrison, defending, said Lumb accepted he had a lamentable record and said: “He apologies for the burglary. It’s part and parcel of a chaotic lifestyle with his afflictions.”


Sentencing, Recorder Andrew Long said: “With considerable hesitation, I find myself persuaded to give you another chance.

“Clearly, you need help addressing your drug and alcohol problems. I want to give you that help.

“This is an opportunity.
 
Animals Act 1971




So all you keyboard warriors can go now, OP and his dog win, Burglar and you lot lose.


EDIT: In fact and i know im guilty of it myself in this thread, we should stop getting hung up on the fact the victim was a "burglar" although to all intense and purposes he probably was, the fact remains he was also a trespasser and that is all that matters here.

The OP said that upon seeing the man in the garden, his wife let the dog out into the garden and shut the door, therefore (a)that the animal was not kept there for the protection of persons or property; or has been violated.
 
The OP said that upon seeing the man in the garden, his wife let the dog out into the garden and shut the door, therefore (a)that the animal was not kept there for the protection of persons or property; or has been violated.

Negative, she didn't know the guy was there until she had already let the dog out into the garden.
Learn to read if you want to start picking holes.
 
Great result.

With the risk of sounding like a complete wet lettuce, I do agree with the comments regarding "attacking on command", rather the dog steamrolling anyone it doesn't recognise.

However I know jack all about dogs so I'm not really educated enough to comment much more than that!
 
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Justice:
1. Just behaviour or treatment
2. The quality of being fair and reasonable
3. The administration of the law or authority in maintaining this


There's nothing just, reasonable or fair in someone being "ripped to shreds by a dog" for nicking some stuff from a shed.

There is no objective truth to that, it's a matter of opinion. Clearly many posters feel that the burglar got what was deserved and proportionate. It was therefore justice.
 
The OP said that upon seeing the man in the garden, his wife let the dog out into the garden and shut the door, therefore (a)that the animal was not kept there for the protection of persons or property; or has been violated.

Actually, she let the dog out before she realised he was there. The dog was stood at the back door, which any owner will see as a sign the dog wants to go out, usually for a **** or a crap. That there happened to be someone in the garden the dog had noticed that she had not, is not her problem.

Honestly, stop looking for some sort of law he or the dog has broken. There is none. The dog could have killed the fella in their back yard and absolutely nothing would have come of it.
 
good effort by the dog... Imagine if your Mrs was home alone without a dog....

In fairness, the burglar would almost certainly have skedaddled as fast as he could. It's very rare for a burglar to actually confront a homeowner when spotted.
 
The OP said that upon seeing the man in the garden, his wife let the dog out into the garden and shut the door, therefore (a)that the animal was not kept there for the protection of persons or property; or has been violated.

Read the post mate.

Even if the dog ripped the burglars arm off, his injuries are 100% the fault of the burglar and 100% avoidable.
 
The burglar wasn't the owner of the dog and that put him in relative poverty of not owning the dog, but because the dog is so big he cannot steal it and escape his plight of poverty, if he could it would end his plight of having to succumb to petty crime brought on by the stress of not owning the dog. The answer is obvious, for the good of society, custody of the dog must be awarded to the burglar.
 
Because all burglers are psycopathic rapists too? The burglar got into the guy's shed. I'd rather lose a few tools than live with the knowledge that there is someone out there that has suffered ingury because of my dog. I'd be more concerned for my gf in the latter scenario too.

OP will probably say the dog did what it was trained to do and didn't injure the trespasser any more than necessary. I accept that but I still wouldn't brag about it on the internet.

Genuinely hope that you don't get burgled, especially by someone with a weapon. Although saying that, I'd love to see hear your response to that scenario if you did....

Dog protecting its owner against someone who had no right being there, yet you'd be worried about the injuries the burglar has? Distorted reality or what :rolleyes:
 
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