'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

The whole "kept broadcasting" thing that Boeing/RR have denied could just be misinformation from the US government to hide the capabilities of their acoustic systems.
 
Going with the seismic activity theory, If the plane ditched into the sea, is there any way of working out roughly A) how long it would take to sink(obviously depending on break-up, depth and other factors) and what speed would it accelerate to when sinking and therefore speed it would hit the sea bed at
 
I know whats happened! ;)

Something so bad that the public cannot find out about. :eek:

Do you really think a plane, oh sorrry my mistake a bloody jumbo jet! can disappear into thin air in 2014? :rolleyes:

Mistaken missile target, Aliens, a fold in time, black hole who knows but i can tell you one thing, they
frightened by something and are talking bull dung over whatever has really happened. ;)
 
Jokester said:
The whole "kept broadcasting" thing that Boeing/RR have denied could just be misinformation from the US government to hide the capabilities of their acoustic systems.
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Immarsat, the owners of the satellite have come out and said they are the ones that picked up the signal. Boeing and RR have nothing to do with it and only received the information that we have heard about before (routine diagnostic info).

So bit insensitive maybe but...

I think I have solved it...;)

Evil villain called Blofeld organises a jet aircraft stolen and taken to his lair, either so he can use the jet for nefarious means (maybe start a way by making another nations jet disappear soon too) or because of something being transported on it. Interpol/CIA/MI6 know about this and are providing loads of misdirection so they have time to attack his lair, perhaps with a james bond lookalike going in first.

I however think I found his lair... A dormant volcano 100km off the coast of the Andaman island chain... Shocking interior images http://www.tasteofcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/you-only-live-twice-3.jpg

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...5,250074m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

It all makes sense now!:p

More seriously though there is still the possibility that the plane went down and did a controlled water landing along the edge of one of the islands, most are apparently deserted and perhaps a boat was waiting to unload some cargo/hostages from it... While it would be risky to land a fully powered and under control aircraft may make it in one piece, especially if in shallow waters... Very unlikely but perhaps that would mean all passengers are safe, perhaps trapped on one of the islands. (only a half sensible idea...)
 
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I'm not talking about a plane hitting the seabed at cruising speed.

A plane ditching into the sea, floating for 10-20 mins then sinking will still hit the bottom with considerable force. Easily detectable by a seismometer.

(this is irrelevant though, as it's likely that the plane didnt ditch into the south china sea)
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Somehow I doubt we can detect a lump of metal sinking at say 10-20mph and landing on a seabed possibly sand or some other sedimentary bed at some random point in the ocean and then be able to triangulate it
 
jimjamuk said:
Somehow I doubt we can detect a lump of metal sinking at say 10-20mph and landing on a seabed possibly sand or some other sedimentary bed at some random point in the ocean and then be able to triangulate it
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Seismometers can be very sensitive. China are using them to detect slight tremors hundreds of miles away.

Here is an example:
seismometers we use are very sensitive. They can detect motions that are much smaller than the thickness of a sheet of paper or as tall as a room. We can detect ground motion in Missouri caused by increased surf activity as a hurricane or large storm system approaches the eastern coast of the lower 48 states.
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This program on CH5 +1 is utter gutter fodder. TERRIBLE music over all clips, TERRIBLE interviewing technique, 3 peoples who obviously answered the call when the 8020958490590428590425 people they tried before said sorry, busy.

GOD what a pish channel.
 
touch said:
Seismometers can be very sensitive. China are using them to detect slight tremors hundreds of miles away.

Here is an example:
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Can you imagine the constant background noise for one of these things if they are that sensitive. The amount of energy in a slight tremor is huge which is why its detectable - with all the constant noise if the sensitivities are to be believed then they wouldnt be able to pick out the plane hitting the seabed amid all the other stuff
 
Housey said:
This program on CH5 +1 is utter gutter fodder. TERRIBLE music over all clips, TERRIBLE interviewing technique, 3 peoples who obviously answered the call when the 8020958490590428590425 people they tried before said sorry, busy.

GOD what a pish channel.
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It was probably scripted and made in an afternoon - avoid those channels like the plague
 
Housey said:
This program on CH5 +1 is utter gutter fodder. TERRIBLE music over all clips, TERRIBLE interviewing technique, 3 peoples who obviously answered the call when the 8020958490590428590425 people they tried before said sorry, busy.

GOD what a pish channel.
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Yeah I changed after about 5 minutes. I now remember why 5 isn't even in my TV's edited guide.
 
Don't watch TV because of adverts? :o

The Americans seem to have been drip feeding information over the last few days and it appears they know more than they're letting on which worries me given their history of lies and deceit. I want to know what really happened but doubt we'll ever know.
 
jimjamuk said:
they wouldnt be able to pick out the plane hitting the seabed amid all the other stuff
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OK, thanks for pointing out the exact capabilities of the Chinese seismometer array.
I dont actually have any first-hand experience of their systems, so i just assumed it would be as sensitive as other arrays.
 
touch said:
I'm not talking about a plane hitting the seabed at cruising speed.

A plane ditching into the sea, floating for 10-20 mins then sinking will still hit the bottom with considerable force. Easily detectable by a seismometer.
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Large planes normally break up when ditched in the sea though.
 
touch said:
And normally a break up leaves a lot of floating debris and an oil slick.
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Oil slick depends on if there's any fuel left, and while initially there is a lot floating debris it sinks or gets spread over the ocean over the course of a few days.

And such a gentle ditching that the plane doesn't break up would leave survivors as in the Hudson river case. So I don't find that scenario in the least bit credible here.
 
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