'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

From daily fail.. but easy to read if anyone is 'catching up' on the 'sitch'

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Westyfield2 said:
But could the previous arcs possibly confirm which of the last north/south arc is correct?
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The arcs are determined from a full circle (at a known distance from the sat in the centre) with some parts of the circle ruled out due to overlap with other sats and fuel range. So earlier arcs with a smaller circumference are likely to be less accurate (and probably full circles) because none of it could be ruled out by fuel range or overlap.
 
Is it possible that having hit 45,000 feet the passengers could have survived?

Also once everyone is dead can the plane not have continued under auto pilot for the remaining x hours before crashing into the sea?
 
The Running Man said:
Is it possible that having hit 45,000 feet the passengers could have survived?

Also once everyone is dead can the plane not have continued under auto pilot for the remaining x hours before crashing into the sea?
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Thats what I said at work today and people tried to shoot me down but I think that isnt a bad shout.
 
So to sum up, plane has gone missing, where it went nobody really knows, it may have stayed up in the air, may have landed somewhere and the authorities are interested in the fact an experienced pilot has a fancy flight sim set up at his home......


It all seems very weird to me, I feel very much though for the countless family's who must be going through a hell of an uncertain time. :/
 
Lysander said:
Because people are assuming he was using it to rehearse stealing the plane.

Seeing as he's the prime suspect it's hardly a leap of faith.
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He had a pc game with multiple monitors, granted personally I think people that play flight sims are the most boring mother ****s on the planet, it is not needed by anyone that flys a plane regularly to know how to switch off a transponder or re-route to another destination or disable all comms, turn off the ELT etc.

I would imagine the number of pilots that fly flight sims at home is huge, I even know plenty of sad **** engineers who set up a flight and then set an alarm even in the middle of the night to land the flight at whatever destination they have chosen.

I say for the good of us all ban Flight sim.
 
A simple, but possible scenario from pprune?

I'll tell you what happened.

The pilot removed the co-pilot either forcibly or during a toilet break.
The pilot then recreated the wildest dreams of every airline pilot.
He turned around, flew low over his homeland, zig-zagged all over, climbed to the service ceiling, flew just above the water, tried to evade radar, flew fast, flew slow and had the ride of his soon to end life until the fuel ran out.

18,000 hours of flying every day from A to B took its' toll along with other issues and he did what every pilot wants to do... something they normally can't.
For as much is cruel and absurd, that is one of the few, if not the only one scenario, that is fully consistent the (little) data available to the public right now.
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Westyfield2 said:
Two questions:

The 40degree arc we've got from the satellite ping is for the very last ping. Have the previous pings been released? (IIRC it was said they're 30minute intervals) Could combining the various arcs help work out the location?

The last voice comms to ATC from the plane (after ACARS has gone off), have they done any voice analysis to confirm it was the crew speaking?
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The arcs won't cross if that's what you mean? However the distance travelled during the intervals would be interesting to see. We could then have an idea which direction the plane was heading and at what speed (very rough approximation at least). It would also tell us whether the plane had been on the ground at all.

Edit: Just to clarify you still wouldn't be able to tell north or south but using average speeds of the plane you could get a feel of whether the plane was flying E-W or N-S or variations in between.
 
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The Running Man said:
Is it possible that having hit 45,000 feet the passengers could have survived?

Also once everyone is dead can the plane not have continued under auto pilot for the remaining x hours before crashing into the sea?
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As has already been stated in this thread that's not very likely. The plane would still be pressurised to normal atmospheres unless someone in the cabin vented intentionally. If the latter was the case then 35,000 feet would have had the same effect.

I.e. no need to send it up to 45,000 feet to knock out the passengers.
 
Pilots on other forums are saying that it couldn't actually get to 45'000 ft. And that the Radar has a % of accuracy and at the Altitude is way off
 
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