'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

Amp34 said:
Sorry, so the BBC can't talk to relatives outside of press conference time? Hasn't stopped them before...
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Before is irrelevant... stopping them outside the conference like that was ridiculous - just shows up the authorities there.... If they're going to act like that in front of the world's media, as though its reasonable behaviour I'd hate to see how those clowns behave when not under immense scrutiny.

As usual the anti Muslims are at to again, first with the terrorism accusations, especially as they found out Iranians were on the plane...
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Anti authoritarian Islamic state... yup, so what. And re: terrorism/Iranians - it wasn't an unreasonable speculation at the time, far more so than most of the CT stuff posted in here... Thread hit an all time low when someone decided to post some Rothschild garbage a couple of pages back.
 
Seems so odd in this day and age that a planes whereabouts is not known and that everything comms wise would not be operating for a distress signal of some sort to have been raised.

Had the plane not turned and radio message to co pilot afterwards and ACARS signals not been picked up hours later I would have thought they all perished from decompression and it ran out of fuel somewhere.

It also seems odd that no mobile comms seem to have been mentioned. Not only no one trying to make outbound calls but no one with a smart phone with GPS updating Google or no mobiles trying to background connect to cell towers. Surely that would suggest the plane not dropping below 5000 feet to avoid radar and flying north over several countries.

I see the dailymail have reported that the pilot had programmed a remote island in the middle of the Indian Ocean with a runway long enough to land a Boeing 777 into his home simulator. Doesn't say if this info was recovered from deleted and recovered data though. could have course be coincidence, his simulator in my opinion could just be because he's very passionate about flying.

Personally I'm thinking hijack and flown south to avoid radar and land on remote island, partly because its hard to think bad of a pilot and crew.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Indeed.
Where was this mentioned?
I got the impression he had just deleted his flight history.
Not familiar with FSX, but is it not like deleting you 'savegames'?

A spot of recuva might get the files back...
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We were just speculating whether they were just deleted as a normal file would be or if he tried to remove all trace of them so they couldn't be recovered.

He may well of just deleted his history but it would make a difference to the investigation if he was trying to hide his tracks :)
 
This appeared on the BBC website today. I said earlier in this thread that people were getting caught up in Goodfellow's post because he was writing so forcefully.

An MH370 theory that was simple, compelling and wrong

"Goodfellow's account is emotionally compelling, and it is based on some of the most important facts that have been established so far," writes Jeff Wise in Slate. "And it is simple - to a fault."

"While it's true that MH370 did turn toward Langkawi and wound up overflying it, whoever was at the controls continued to maneuver after that point as well, turning sharply right at VAMPI waypoint, then left again at GIVAL," he says. "Such vigorous navigating would have been impossible for unconscious men."

Goodfellow's theory fails further when one remembers the electronic ping detected by the Inmarsat satellite at 8:11 on the morning of March 8. According to analysis provided by the Malaysian and United States governments, the pings narrowed the location of MH370 at that moment to one of two arcs, one in Central Asia and the other in the southern Indian Ocean. As MH370 flew from its original course toward Langkawi, it was headed toward neither. Without human intervention - which would go against Goodfellow's theory - it simply could not have reached the position we know it attained at 8:11 a.m.
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I disliked Goodfellow's post because a] it didn't make sense and b] it was arrogant at the expense of rationale. Nice to know the BBC agree.
 
The plane has crashed, it's just wishful thinking otherwise, as to the reason nobody knows yet. Speculating it landed somewhere is just silly.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
From what my wife mentioned I don't think the opposition leader was a radical.

I think those groups are vocal in Malaysia but don't hold the seat of govt or that opposition party. Happy to be corrected.
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Anwar was deeply embedded in the Government until he annoyed Mahatir - the long serving and still very powerful prime minister. Basically Anwar was being groomed to take over and got tired of waiting. He has become a figurehead for the opposition groups to gather around - but opposition in malaysia is very mild compared to say, Syria. The Government is run by Malays, business by the Chinese (with a mandatory Malay figurehead) and everything else by the Indians. It has been a recipe for peace in Malaysia during times that race riots were sweeping other countries, and Malaysians are proud of their peaceful co-existence.basically the rich and powerful malays run the country and UMNO, the umbrella ruling political party, and Anwar is very much one of them sodomy trial or not.

I mention this because to think that a member of an opposition group would think suicide/murder/hijacking would be a practical demonstration of opposition is a bit like linking a missing pilot to the labour party and suggesting hes possibly hijacked a plane because he is annoyed at the tories. Its ridiculous.
 
mcast said:
The plane has crashed, it's just wishful thinking otherwise, as to the reason nobody knows yet. Speculating it landed somewhere is just silly.
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I'd love to know your detailed insight into why. The fact it's disappeared does not mean it's crashed. Especially when you consider that it was, as far as we know, controlled all the way until the last ping and beyond.
 
The bit in the Express article referring to Dr Leivesley (former Home Office scientific advisor) about phone hacking vulnerability was a shocking revelation to come out of this I thought. Shocking in the sense of the implication of older aircraft or those that have had systems such as in flight entertainment additions could have compromised their security.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...y-have-been-cyber-hijacked-using-mobile-phone
 
DrewBrees said:
I just read somewhere that the "Alright, Goodnight" comment made by the pilot was made after the plane made a left turn and headed towards Langkawi. Surely that rules out the mysterious fire theory?
Did anyone else watch Aircrash Investigators last night? Everyone on board Helios flight 522 died of hypoxia, but the autopilot put the plane into a holding pattern around an airfield until the fuel ran out and they crashed. All this was caused by one single switch being left in the wrong position. Maybe something similar happened to flight MH370.
I've just been on a US message board and a US news station are saying the plane has been spotted in Pakistan.
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The last communication was at 35,000ft, if the plane was not pressurised they would have been unconscious.
 
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