Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I dont understand how anyone can claim that no one knows how the building was set on fire in Odessa, when there are videos and pictures of molotvs thrown at it...

There are rather horrible pictures released on twitter of burned alive men in the building, comments from Pro-Ukranians is the most shocking part.... They are cheering on and saying that dogs deserve dogs death...

Well to be fair our government/media were both adamant that if chemical weapons were used in Syria it must have been loyalists as only they had them, despite the rebels posting pictures/videos on-line of themselves using chemical weapons, so at least our government/media are being consistent lol.
 
Lost touch with this 'crisis' ...

Last I heard, Pro-Russian 'Ukrainian' civilians are rebelling and trashing the country.

Russia is saying that these civilians are jeopardising the lives of Russian-speaking residents, so will send it's military in to 'secure the lives of those Russian speakers'.

Russia is saying that Ukraine is endorsing, nigh, supporting these rebel civilians to deliberately vexate Russian speakers. Yet the rest of the world is saying that this public unrest is caused by Russian special forces and extremists deliberately put in place by Russia.

Ukraine said they cannot tackle these rebels as they are targeting intelligently where there is no/minimal defence, and hiding behind innocent civilians when trouble comes their way.

End result, Russia 'invades' everyone is happy (as the protesters are mostly Russian anyway) then they rule under the Iron Curtain once again. Then some wierd embargoes and threats from the Western world?
 
All this for repelling russian language as the second official language and then, instead of winning hearts and minds by running a proper referendum (not like the one in Crimea) decide to do it by force and basically creating an extremist IRA like opposition which will have all the reasons to persist even in the case of Ukranian Ukranians winning the current mini battles. Ukraine's politicians are just bad... Its almost like THEY are paid by the Russians to break up the country :)
 
Looks like it's full steam ahead now for Kiev, they have finally realised that Russia arming/supporting the rebels is just rumours and that it's unlikely they will do so, and now they are steam rolling the rebels at full speed.
 
I for one am glad to see the puppets of the Kremlin who attacked the unity protest got taught a lesson. Hopefully this will be a signal to other puppets that shooting on unarmed civilians will get you killed.

The biggest puppets of them all right now are the new Ukrainian government. Their masters being the USA
 
A little sense from Ron Paul...

It looks like the civil war in Ukraine is getting much worse. Western Ukraine right now is being urged on by its Western supporters, meaning its NATO supporters, the European Union, the United States and the IMF (International Monetary Fund). Western Ukraine has moved to take back control of the cities in Eastern Ukraine that have been taken over by supporters of Russia.

Of course, it’s said in the major media that Russia has started all of this trouble, and so all this has to be done. The truth is, the coup of several weeks ago to overthrow the elected leader Viktor Yanokovych was stirred up by the same group: NATO, the European Union, the U.S., and the IMF.

Since this whole mess was started, we’ve been very much involved by spending more than $5 billion to control Ukraine. And this intervention continues. But the current fighting looks like a serious escalation that may get out of control, even though it’s in the interest on both sides, the West as well as Russia, not to escalate. There have been a lot of threats and intimidation on sanctions and economic penalties, which very well could get out of control.

Added recently has been a promise from the IMF of $17 billion to Ukraine under a specific condition: get rid of the control of these Eastern cities by Russian supporters. This is a condition that has been placed on them, so it’s not a surprise that, seemingly all of a sudden, we are seeing more aggressive activity by the Western Ukrainians to try to conquer these cities.

Ironically, the IMF doesn’t seem to have much common sense in trying to help the Ukrainian people because, in order to get this $17 billion, not only must they fight and control the East, they also have to raise taxes and increase oil prices—which will not help the people. This is generally the case when there are sanctions placed on a country, or when war breaks out: the people suffer and the special interests seem to thrive.

Also, I think this is certainly a shift from pretending that the Western Ukrainians are on the defensive because they’ve now instituted a military draft. In all seriousness, if a country is defending itself, then the people rally and you don’t have to use conscription to get fighters.

I maintain that it’s a mess over there, and it’s getting worse. We’re contributing to the problems. It would be much better for the Ukrainians, for the Europeans, for the Russians, and for the Americans, for us to just stay out and follow the principles of a non-intervention foreign policy. Don’t send the money and don’t send them weapons. Don’t get involved and don’t pick sides. Then I think the Ukrainian people might be able to settle this on their own, and a lot better than when there’s outside interference.
 
Many of those captured in Odessa were from Russia and Moldova. Civil war? Tacit invasion.

The real report by the Odessa police is that all 42 killed on that day were native of Odessa http://timer.od.ua/news/chislo_pogi...pogibshie_na_kulikovom_pole_odessiti_939.html

Link the source on capture of russians and moldovians, always link source when claiming something extraordinary.

If you are citing http://www.unian.net/politics/91421...e-grajdane-rossii-i-jiteli-pridnestrovya.html then it does not tell figure of how many were from Russia and Transnistria and does not take away that all killed were from Odessa and that larger portion were locals and involvement of volunteers from neighboring regions is not an invasion.

Oh god you are the one who is glad that 42 people were shot dead, burned alive, fell to their death while trying to escape burning building and finally suffocated from carbon monoxide.

I for one am glad to see the puppets of the Kremlin who attacked the unity protest got taught a lesson. Hopefully this will be a signal to other puppets that shooting on unarmed civilians will get you killed.
 
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Full scale? I don't think so.

It's some minor armed clashes in the east and south.

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The real report by the Odessa police is that all 42 killed on that day were native of Odessa http://timer.od.ua/news/chislo_pogi...pogibshie_na_kulikovom_pole_odessiti_939.html

Suspicious at best and very quick conclusion too quick. Again many Probably armed and violently stormed the building in the first place. You fail to present any accurate information on what exactly happened unless you know more than anyone else.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/03/us-ukraine-crisis-eu-idUSBREA4207M20140503

I guess you think its all just a conspiracy of dozens of countries all ganging up on Poor innocent Russians (who in fact have shown to be a bunch of thugs who beat citizens and kidnap Journalists, tortured and killed, violently stormed government buildings, supressed Pro-Ukrainians, Raided armouries, set up illegal Checkpoints blocking in the population pro-Russian or not, (calling for Russia to invade before any violence was provoked by them)


The ordinary Ukrainians have had enough of violent intervention in the east and are fighting back

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27201870


Your posts are so pro-Russian. All you do is try your best to smear the other Madian (who consists of many groups) while deliberately and actively leaving out ANYTHING negative towards the pro-Russians. PRO-Russian spin doctor poodle
 
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heh ultranationals from the west arrived to Odessa clashing with antimaidan people all day today

Maindan set antimaidan camps on fire as well as setting Trade Union HQ on fire, setting all exits specifically on fire and beating people. Then Maidan people beat those who manage to escape the fire through windows and prevent paramedics from helping the injured.

If anybody here wondered why the East was afraid then here it is, Maidan ultranationals setting buildings on fire specially to kill.

Ukraine police, Routers says 38* dead so far. https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/462304296562745344


Here are the scum justifying the burning by labeling it as Russian HQ
http://inagist.com/all/462278106124804096/

Those anti-maidan protesters were not pro-russian or federalist but purely against maidan and for Ukraine unity.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmpXVSAIYAAiQvi.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmpUbU0CEAAjfEt.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmpW_vhIMAAcNhn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmpVudSCEAAeJ8S.jpg

Crimea militia, responding to Ukraine move to take Luhanks, vouches to come and assist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HoLqrQrEZI&html5=1


Gunships unleashed in Luhanks, ultras terrorising Odessa, Crimean millitia joining in, those muppets at Kyiv keep pushing the country to full scale civil war, they're playing right into Russian hands >_<

Also got "black people" joining in saying they already abducted few "separatists activists" and will contue doing so in Kharkiv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma4h5XgT6pU

Interesting Neo-Putin conclusions
Poor show mate, why not just give us Putins personal Twitter address. I won't sink so low to source Maidan web sites
 
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The real report by the Odessa police is that all 42 killed on that day were native of Odessa http://timer.od.ua/news/chislo_pogi...pogibshie_na_kulikovom_pole_odessiti_939.html

Suspicious at best and very quick conclusion too quick. Again many Probably armed and violently stormed the building in the first place. You fail to present any accurate information on what exactly happened unless you know more than anyone else.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/03/us-ukraine-crisis-eu-idUSBREA4207M20140503

I guess you think its all just a conspiracy of dozens of countries all ganging up on Poor innocent Russians (who in fact have shown to be a bunch of thugs who beat citizens and kidnap Journalists, tortured and killed, violently stormed government buildings, supressed Pro-Ukrainians, Raided armouries, set up illegal Checkpoints blocking in the population pro-Russian or not, (calling for Russia to invade before any violence was provoked by them)


The ordinary Ukrainians have had enough of violent intervention in the east and are fighting back

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27201870


Your posts are so pro-Russian. All you do is try your best to smear the other Madian (who consists of many groups) while deliberately and actively leaving out ANYTHING negative towards the pro-Russians. PRO-Russian spin doctor poodle

First of all, learn how to quote properly.

Second of all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9A...eature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_1235912793

This is video evidence.

Third, Odessa is not east, there were never any militia occupying the buildings. The pro-russian crowd retreated to anti-maidan camp who was there for ages and was always peaceful. It is only after maidan crowd burned the tents did the pro-russian take shelter in the building.

Lastly, I already told you that I have been monitoring the situation from the start very closely and I forgive your naive view on the situation and will continue providing evidence.

Interesting Neo-Putin conclusions
Poor show mate, why not just give us Putins personal Twitter address. I won't sink so low to source Maidan web sites
I suppose if I tell you I am not a fan of putin because he is actively destroying democratic process won't change a thing will it, in your mind everybody who posses more knowledge than you is a putinist right? I do feel sorry for you buddy.
 
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