Monaco Grand Prix 2014, Monte Carlo - Race 6/19

Where's the source? That's interesting.

Very happy for Bianchi and the Marussia boys. Those points will probably guarantee their placing in the WCC, and probably seal the Caterham team's fate.
 
Definitely interesting. It was obvious that the relationship had broken down, but I didn't think it was that bad on the McLaren side. Was Priestly there during Hamilton's last years at McLaren?

Edit: Ah, seems he left prior, so I guess that's something he's discussed with other employees if true.
 
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this_is_gav said:
Former McLaren mechanic, Marc Priestley:
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Did you have a point? Guys who leave with loads of friends often leave without many wins or championships. Button might leave Mclaren with everyone loving him, having won no championships and having not been close to one.

Winners don't make friends, they win, losers make lots of friends and are nice to everyone because they get leave with **** all else.

Hamilton is making statements to push the team to back someone for the title, and that should be the guy who won 4 races on the bounce who beat Rosberg last year despite having all the bad luck go his way and again this year.

Rosberg got one win when Lewis's car failed in the warm up lap and another win when he cheated in qualifying to prevent anyone else going faster(every chance Riccy would have beaten him as well in Q3).

Most winners want the team to back them rather than pee around playing around with two no.1 drivers.

Alonso makes no apologies for having the team compromise the other drivers race for him to win, and vettel had no problem with this, nor did Schumacher, Prost, Mika, Senna, etc, etc.

But it's terrible of him to want the full backing of his team when every other title winner has received it?

A winner would NOT be happy with the situation this weekend. I don't expect the team to come out and spank Rosberg publicly, nor privately really, but it's not terrible to expect your own engineers to consider a strategy which beats your opponent rather than focus on one that prioritises the 1-2 finish.

Alonso pretty frequently mouths off at the team, Vettel is having a go over the radio at his team(which while I find it funny is still perfectly acceptable). but the "we hate Lewis" brigade on here seem to want to as usual complain about Hamilton acting like every other champion.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Did you have a point? Guys who leave with loads of friends often leave without many wins or championships. Button might leave Mclaren with everyone loving him, having won no championships and having not been close to one.
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I think the point is that they weren't playing well together, that it's hardly a shock that they both made a mess of 2012 and that Hamilton's track record in team harmony is pretty shocking. If he'd worked better with his fellow team members that championship might not have got away...

And remember Button has as many championships as Hamilton.
 
Lewis Pre Melbourne "We're good friends"

Lewis Post Monaco "We're not friends"











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drunkenmaster said:
Did you have a point? Guys who leave with loads of friends often leave without many wins or championships. Button might leave Mclaren with everyone loving him, having won no championships and having not been close to one.

Winners don't make friends, they win, losers make lots of friends and are nice to everyone because they get leave with **** all else.
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^ You can't know any of that you are guessing and using as usual button as a comparison. There's no fact to back up any of that.
 
Guerrilla said:
Just a heads up that the Indy 500 is due to start shortly on BT Sport 2 if you still haven't got your fill of racing :)
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Just logged into parents BT Sport account. Good god it's horrendous.

Every single one of the hosts is annoying as hell. I though that the BBC F1 coverage had become comically bad, but this is even worse.
 
The big thing to remember is, it's only a four-point lead.

Until this race Hamilton had won four on the trot and had a unlucky DNF in the first race. Finishing second today wasn't the end of the world and still keeps things very close, plus it's still early days in the season.

Unless Hamilton completely unravels from this point on, he should still be firm favourite for the WDC. I think he'll spend the next two weeks reflecting and come back stronger than ever in Canada where any sensible money would go on Hamilton anyway.

Really looking forward to it already!
 
Flibster said:
Just logged into parents BT Sport account. Good god it's horrendous.

Every single one of the hosts is annoying as hell. I though that the BBC F1 coverage had become comically bad, but this is even worse.
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I don't mind Johnny Mowlem, reminds me of the Sky Sports indycar days surprised Keith Huewen isn't presenting actually considering he works for BT now!

This really doesn't need 5 people in the studio though!
 
Watching the build up on the BBC. Lauda said Lewis accused Rosberg of something he didn't do, Niki tried to fix it but he couldn't. We all thought this, but I wasn't aware Merc had come out and said it so directly!
 
The Lewis fiasco is all very childish to me. I wish he'd just be more man about things, rather than a baby throwing a tantrum. There was me thinking I liked him after moving to merc. What a faget.
 
dannyjo22 said:
^ You can't know any of that you are guessing and using as usual button as a comparison. There's no fact to back up any of that.
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Can't know any of what?

You mean "Button MIGHT leave....."

Where did I claim Button was loved, it's called an example. I also asked what your point was and didn't get a response just the usual off point twaddle.

The history of champions who don't get on with team mates and fall out with teams who don't support them is exceptionally well established. The history of champions who don't get on with team mates but get on great with the team when the team completely backs them and things are going great is well established. The history of champions whose team goes through a poor spell, relations brake down when things aren't hunky dory and force their way out to a team currently winning is established.

This is also very often the case in MANY other sports, winners are more often than not arrogant, selfish and whiney when things go wrong. Losers accept when things are crap and don't do anything about it.

I don't like Lewis, I like his driving, full stop. I PREFER seeing him in a fight for third, having TRIED to get first, than sitting 2 seconds behind Rosberg cruising the entire race and I prefer him to complain that he's not happy winning than being completely happy cruising around in second.

Cruising around 2 seconds behind not even trying would be boring, and embarrassing IMHO. I like aggressive drivers that try to make things happen, I can't stand drivers who play the slow race and hope everyone else crashes tactic. If everyone cruised to the end in the position they qualify in I'd never watch motorsport ever.

I quite like Button off track when just doing interviews, he's funny, witty and a bit weird sometimes(playing with was it Humphries nipple was pretty hilarious). I can't stand his driving for the most part. I think Schumy is great off track, a complete **** on track but a great aggressive driver who is often great to watch.

EDIT:- also says something about Mclaren to me, the team that wants to be friends, has failed to really challenge for the majority of the past 5 years. Friendship is friendship, sport is sport, one has nothing to do with the other. Some of the best teams in history, be it f1, football, whatever, have had people who hate each other but can still work well together and get the job done. Man Utd's two strikers during their strongest period hated each other, didn't stop them working together and winning.

A driver not disappointed with not winning isn't worth having and I can't think of many great F1 champions who aren't vocal about their displeasure.
 
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Hamilton's interview was very interesting with regard to their being one strategist and them looking out for the person in the lead.

I presume that not only goes for the race but also the championship. Lewis and Rosberg both knew how important it would be to be on pole here today and that the team would back the driver in the lead. Lewis also knows that because of that DNF, and until Rosberg has as DNF aswell, the gap between them is always going to be small no matter how many wins he gets, so he needs to make sure he keeps his nose in front, to keep the team on his side.

Also, because the last race is worth double, he absolutely has to make sure he is more than 50 points ahead of Nico by then as one bit of bad luck and he will lose it, despite probably having won most of the seasons races.

It is a tricky situation and I can fully understand why Lewis is frustrated.
 
Thing is, for all the sad faces off track, Lewis drove a very solid race to pressure Rosberg all race (until the eye eye captain issue). I don't think Lewis would have managed that two or three years ago, it would have been crashes/aggressive overtakes/on track issues galore.

Anyway, at least the Monaco train track is done, next stop Canada which is a fantastic track.
 
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