Chances of UKIP winning General Election?

Klo · 1 Jun 2014 at 13:48

deuse said:
Like I really care what you think. NOT.
Please let the UKIP\Cons win the next GE.

Great comeback...

Tunney · 1 Jun 2014 at 13:59

Interesting to see that UKIP are backtracking on their libertarian ideals. I wonder if they'll now distance themselves from their previous plans to privatise the NHS?

Skidder · 1 Jun 2014 at 14:00

deuse said:
Like I really care what you think. NOT.
Please let the UKIP\Cons win the next GE.

I would be delighted with a conservative win.

Monkeynut · 1 Jun 2014 at 14:05

Tunney said:
Interesting to see that UKIP are backtracking on their libertarian ideals. I wonder if they'll now distance themselves from their previous plans to privatise the NHS?

I suspect these changes come from the "working class" voters and members they have picked up in the North.

robgmun · 1 Jun 2014 at 14:20

Tunney said:
I wonder if they'll now distance themselves from their previous plans to privatise the NHS?

Never heard him say he wanted to privatise the NHS, so unless you can come up with a link where he directly says it then i put it to you that you just made it up on your head, lets see if you can come through for me, and Kudos if you do. And on that note, according to the interview in the Andrew Marr show he wants to get rid of a large section of Middle-Management in the NHS and hire more Doctors and Nurses. Doesn't sound unreasonable doesn't it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04647bc/the-andrew-marr-show-01062014

Starts at 45mins

Tunney · 1 Jun 2014 at 14:31

robgmun said:
Never heard him say he wanted to privatise the NHS, so unless you can come up with a link where he directly says it then i put it to you that you just made it up on your head, lets see if you can come through for me, and Kudos if you do.

Paul Nuttall, deputy leader of UKIP:

I would link to the original blog post but his website seems to be down.

robgmun · 1 Jun 2014 at 14:39

Tunney said:
Paul Nuttall, deputy leader of UKIP:

I would link to the original blog post but his website seems to be down.

Fair enough, so it seems they are changing their stance, are you happier then or cynical at the change?

No1newts · 1 Jun 2014 at 15:06

Tunney said:
Interesting to see that UKIP are backtracking on their libertarian ideals. I wonder if they'll now distance themselves from their previous plans to privatise the NHS?

It was the one policy I agreed with

Tunney · 1 Jun 2014 at 15:27

robgmun said:
Fair enough, so it seems they are changing their stance, are you happier then or cynical at the change?

I think it's interesting that the party is moving away from libertarianism. The kind of people who voted for the party at the EU elections are exactly the kind of people who would be most hurt by a libertarian government.

To defeat the mainstream, UKIP is going to have to become mainstream.

deuse · 1 Jun 2014 at 16:18

Klo said:
Great comeback...

You don't really want my come back do you?

Gilly · 1 Jun 2014 at 16:33

Tunney said:
I think it's interesting that the party is moving away from libertarianism. The kind of people who voted for the party at the EU elections are exactly the kind of people who would be most hurt by a libertarian government.

To defeat the mainstream, UKIP is going to have to become mainstream.

They are to become that which they hate then?

Exactly as they did in Europe!

Skidder · 1 Jun 2014 at 16:37

deuse said:
You don't really want my come back do you?

Wayne's worldisms are tough to top but I'd love to hear what else you have for us.

deuse · 1 Jun 2014 at 16:55

Skidder said:
Wayne's worldisms are tough to top but I'd love to hear what else you have for us.

Well if you and Klo want my come back.

You'll have to scrape off your moms teeth

Oh and deuse throws the knock out blow.

robgmun · 1 Jun 2014 at 16:55

Tunney said:
I think it's interesting that the party is moving away from libertarianism. The kind of people who voted for the party at the EU elections are exactly the kind of people who would be most hurt by a libertarian government.

To defeat the mainstream, UKIP is going to have to become mainstream.

Not sure what you personally class as a libertarian government. Personally i would like UKIP to be a more right wing version of the Tory party. But why are you so scared of the NHS being part-privatised? I completely understand and agree that the at the basic front of staff (Doctors, Nurses and consultants) and main building should remain public forever more. But the management system needs a serious overall to curb waste.

Judgeneo · 1 Jun 2014 at 16:58

Tunney said:
Interesting to see that UKIP are backtracking on their libertarian ideals. I wonder if they'll now distance themselves from their previous plans to privatise the NHS?

Well there goes all hope of income tax reform

Sankari · 1 Jun 2014 at 17:16

UKIP are a bunch of hypocrites. When the party was first founded, it refused to recognise the EU and swore it would never send a member to the European Parliament.

As soon as Farage got hold of the leadership he realised (a) politics is actually a lot harder than it looks, and (b) nobody in Britain wants UKIP running the nation.

Instead he decided life would be much simpler if he just parked his backside in a cushy European office doing sod all at the public's expense, occasionally rattling the media's cage with an inflammatory and ultimately irrelevant speeches.

Ever since then UKIP members have been fighting like rabid rats to get onto the very same taxpayer-funded Brussells-based gravy train they claim they're trying to abolish. The irony is that if they actually succeeded they'd all be out of a job, which is the last thing they want.

******s.

MrMoonX · 1 Jun 2014 at 17:17

Judgeneo said:
Well there goes all hope of income tax reform

You mean the one where comparatively poor people pay more income tax than rich people, wow such great ideas the racists have :rolleyes:

MrMoonX · 1 Jun 2014 at 17:18

Evangelion said:
UKIP are a bunch of hypocrites. When the party was first founded, it refused to recognise the EU and swore it would never send a member to the European Parliament.

As soon as Farage got hold of the leadership he realised (a) politics is actually a lot harder than it looks, and (b) nobody in Britain wants UKIP running the nation.

Instead he decided life would be much simpler if he just parked his backside in a cushy European office doing sod all at the public's expense, occasionally rattling the media's cage with an inflammatory and ultimately irrelevant speeches.

Ever since then UKIP members have been fighting like rabid rats to get onto the very same taxpayer-funded Brussells-based gravy train they claim they're trying to abolish. The irony is that course, if they actually succeeded they'd all be out of a job, which is the last thing they want.

******s.

Yes it's hypocrisy that farage whines about an EU gravy train whilst riding it all the way to the bank

Gilly · 1 Jun 2014 at 17:30

deuse said:
Well if you and Klo want my come back.

You'll have to scrape off your moms teeth

Oh and deuse throws the knock out blow.

That doesn't even work.

Tonester0011 · 1 Jun 2014 at 17:38

Gilly said:
That doesn't even work.

It does if she was smiling

Jimmy Carr joke anyway