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Official Devils Canyon review thread

The only problem is X99 is even more expensive - its almost like Intel wants enthusiasts to be on the more expensive platform! ;)

TBH,I don't see any issue with SB lasting people for a couple of years. You can just put the money into other parts of the rig,like a bigger SSD for example.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The only problem is X99 is even more expensive - its almost like Intel wants enthusiasts to be on the more expensive platform! ;)

TBH,I don't see any issue with SB lasting people for a couple of years. You can just put the money into other parts of the rig,like a bigger SSD for example.
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Yeah SB will go on for years yet, Sampsy said "I'm going to have to wait until 2020 before there is something worth upgrading to from my 2500k".

Point was Haswell -E would be a massive upgrade from a 2500K and old motherboard, in every way. Double the cores, much better Motherboard. quad channel DDR4 memory etc..

The options are there and much sooner than 2020 was my point :p Mainstream stuff is not the be all and end all lol.
 
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Overclocking process with the Core i7-4790K is identical to that of other Haswell parts. The theory has been that, thanks to these improved thermals, we should see improved scaling. That did not happen for me. My peak overclock for all cores was 4.7 GHz running at 1.36v and no amount of added voltage or changes to the overcurrent protection or cache voltages, seemed to matter. I could not reach 4.8 GHz for a standard stability run.


Well thats it for Devils Canyon. Another lottery chip Or you are lucky and get good clocker OR not and 4.6 on water is max you gonna have....


Haswell -E is our only chance now :/
 
Reading these reviews, I was going to get the 4790K for a SFF (Silverstone case) build, but now I think I'll save the £50 and just go for the regular 4790.

with a 4Ghz turbo mode, I really wouldn't be missing out, certainly not as much as I thought I would.
 
Even though my 4770k is terrible and i want to get rid of it and actually had plans to do so, now with all the reviews coming in and the way things are looking now i might just not. Disappointing really if you are current hotwell owner..
 
My 4770k needs 1.3v to do 4.4Ghz. If these new chips are hitting 4.7 with similar volts then that's not bad at all.

Not worth upgrading mind you.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Yeah SB will go on for years yet, Sampsy said "I'm going to have to wait until 2020 before there is something worth upgrading to from my 2500k".

Point was Haswell -E would be a massive upgrade from a 2500K and old motherboard, in every way. Double the cores, much better Motherboard. quad channel DDR4 memory etc..

The options are there and much sooner than 2020 was my point :p Mainstream stuff is not the be all and end all lol.
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Of course I could buy far more expensive components and see a performance increase but that isn't useful to me. I could spend every penny I have on a miniature super computer for gaming but it's certainly not worth the cost. Processors seem to be improving year on year at the same price point in every aspect other than the one I actually care about.
 
I am going to swap simply because my chip is so crap that it requires 1.3v to hit 4.2 (and even then it's sitting at high 70s with 1-2 cores hitting 80s).
Even if the new chip will require same volts, I am hoping that the improved tar.. ekhem 'TIM'.... will have lower temps.
 
So far all the reviews I have read have been written using Engineering Samples, which may or may not be truly representative of the end retail chips.

Additionally, a stable OC of 4.7 appears entirely possible, which lets face it would have delighted most people on the majority of 4770k's.

Not 5k, agreed, but I still see this 4.7k as encouraging, and a likely reason to upgrade.

I personally look forward to seeing people's experiences with retail chips. they may or may not reflect the experiences with the ES samples.
 
Assuming that 4.7 is common for retail chips on big-air, what sort of kick up is a 4790K going to be over a [email protected]? Obviously there's the addition of HT, but I've lost track of the single threaded performance gains ^^;
 
Boomstick777 said:
Yeah SB will go on for years yet, Sampsy said "I'm going to have to wait until 2020 before there is something worth upgrading to from my 2500k".

Point was Haswell -E would be a massive upgrade from a 2500K and old motherboard, in every way. Double the cores, much better Motherboard. quad channel DDR4 memory etc..

The options are there and much sooner than 2020 was my point :p Mainstream stuff is not the be all and end all lol.
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When are we likely to see haswell-e ?
 
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About 10% min each new Tick/Tock so SB to IB to Haswell is about 20% min clock for clock/thread.
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Hmm, so with an extra 200MHz on the clock, that's about 25% extra kick in single threads, plus HT for multi.

It's not insignificant... but I'm not sure it feels like enough of an excuse to rebuild my rig. Come on, Intel, you can do better! :<
 
I fail to see any point in this release? The difference between 4770k @ 4.4 and 4790k @ 4.7 is negligible in real world usage. I think Intel have seen how much the GPU manufacturers milk their wares and thought 'we'll have some of that'.
 
Exactly how can a 500mhz faster cheaper (outside UK) CPU be a rip off?

It is not aimed at peeps who already own a 4770k.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
I fail to see any point in this release? The difference between 4770k @ 4.4 and 4790k @ 4.7 is negligible in real world usage. I think Intel have seen how much the GPU manufacturers milk their wares and thought 'we'll have some of that'.
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Some 3770K/4770K hit a wall at 4.2-4.3 and try asking Dell what a 4.4ghz 4770K is anyway.. it's a huge step up for everyone except performance/overclocking enthusiasts (who probably should be on Socket 2011 anyway ;)).
 
The 4790 would be a perfect upgrade for the likes of me who never overclock. It's very appealing - running at a stock speed of 4GHz and boosts up to 4.4GHz sounds immense. And whilst using less power than my 975BE does now. Don't get the K version either and spend the money saved on a decent air cooler. There must be others thinking the same as me?
 
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