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Official Devils Canyon review thread

Voltage for 4.6 is 1.26, so not bad at all, I'd agree that there'd be no difference if both run at 4.6, but if dc can get to 5ghz with little effort (long shot but I'm hopeful) and at decent temps/voltages I'll pick one up.
 
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I would pay extra for delided CPU. Saves me hearth attack whiled doing myself :D
 
JamesM said:
I suppose but it's like modding a car.

If you sell a standard car in good condition it would appeal to more people than a car that was in the same condition (if not better) but had been modded.
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But modding a car is usually down to personal preference and might not be appealing to others; delidding CPU on the other hand is simply "fixing" a known fault that Intel induced (may or may not had be delibrate).

I guess it's like you said down to who's around at the time and how you pitch in it the sales/auction. If you clearly mentioning the benefit of delidding, even if people that don't have previous knowledge about the benefit of it might start searching on the internet to verify you claim.

I mean I paid £60 extra for the OcUK unlock 290x comparing to the £300 290 with BF4 at the time because I want guaranteed result rather than taking chance of ending up with a 290 that wouldn't unlock to 290x.

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people out there willing to pay extra for guaranteed returns due to fear of the risks involve.
 
And I guess its down to warrenty too. If a delidded CPU stops working (very unlikely) then you can't return it due to a physical mod. Unlike a softmodded 290 to 290x.
 
cwgk91 said:
The 4970k will surely produce more heat though as it has a higher clock speed and a higher tdp.

Surely the sensible comparison would be between a 4770k and a 4790k both running at 4.4Ghz and see what the heat for both is like then. Or down clock the DC to 3.9Ghz...
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The way I looked at it, was that on average the 4790k is 12% hotter than the 4770k with only being around 10% faster clock speeds. Let's say the extra tdp evens it all out.

Where is the benefit of this special TIM that's been talked about ? From what I can see, absolutely nada.
 
The benefit will be for those who have good water setups mostly.

The 4770k just can't transfer the heat well enough from the cores due to the awful TIM Intel used so no matter how good your setup is, the CPU will always run hot. Granted it will run cooler under water than air, it still runs hot.

People have recorded temps 20 degrees lower simply by replacing the TIM on the 4770k which shows just how much potential there is for upping the voltages more and clocking higher.

Better TIM on the 4790k would, hopefully, cure this issue.

Plus it doesn't matter if the 4790k is a much hotter chip, a good setup would still allow you to clock it well. Maybe not so much on air?
 
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JamesM said:
The benefit will be for those who have good water setups mostly.

The 4770k just can't transfer the heat well enough from the cores due to the awful TIM Intel used so no matter how good your setup is, the CPU will always run hot. Granted it will run cooler under water than air, it still runs hot.

People have recorded temps 20 degrees lower simply by replacing the TIM on the 4770k which shows just how much potential there is for upping the voltages more and clocking higher.

Better TIM on the 4790k would, hopefully, cure this issue.

Plus it doesn't matter if the 4790k is a much hotter chip, a good setup would still allow you to clock it well. Maybe not so much on air?
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Would the Corsair H110 cool it well ?
 
LambChop said:
Would the Corsair H110 cool it well ?
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I can't really say as i've only ever used a very old all in one water cooler and none of the newer stuff.

You won't be a full custom water loop but for how a H110 compares to a top of the range air cooler I really can't say.
 
See I'm sat on a i2500K at 3.3ghz stock (overclocking problems), hedging my bets on upgrading to either a i4790k bundle or seeing what Haswell E brings. I do gaming at ultra settings (290 gpu) and video editing.

Plunge for the 4790k or wait till whenever the next lot are out? (any eta on this roughly?)
 
With a single GPU your best bet would be the 4790k.

If you wanted 3 or 4 GPUs then Haswell-E is the path you need to take.
 
JamesM you must have missed VIDEO EDITING bit from Booner!.

Haswell-E still looks as better option if you can afford extra few hounded quid.
 
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i think it will come down to how much the overclocks vary if i build one ><
was a big downer about the 4770k with some not going over 4.3 or whatever

1.4v for 5ghz doesnt impress me that much but if most do atleast that and thats not a "cherry" one then its still tempting

getting pc building withdrawal!
 
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